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Old 03-20-2010, 08:13 AM
Jonathan Brown
 
Default Dedicated Arch servers

Dude relax - I was offering you the services of the company I work for. However, I far from own the company, I am just a tech. Even so, I didn't feel it was appropriate to respond to the mailing list. Sorry that offended you so much.

Spamming you? Absolutely not sir. I am a proud arch user is all- I don't sit here reading thru the Arch list skimming for opportuniites, I just felt like it would be more appropriate to respond to you directly. If that is against the mailing list rules I shaint do it again.



----- Original Message ----
From: Sam Harada <sam@peasantoid.org>
To: Jonathan Brown <jbssfl@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 1:22:18 AM
Subject: Re: [arch-general] Dedicated Arch servers

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:26:12AM -0700, Jonathan Brown wrote:
> I am a NOC technician at a data center-
>
> I will install it for you if you like-
>
> We have some pretty good deals on servers
>
> email sdodman@sagonet.com
> and tell him what kind of dedicated server you are looking for and he'll give you a good deal-
> Be sure to tell him that Jon B. recommended you contact him and that I said I will install Arch Linux on the server and that there won't be any extra charge to install that OS
>
> Bear in mind, we do try to help our unmanaged dedicated server customers as much as possible with software issues etc and anything else that we can up to a point (meaning if it gets intensive we will usually have to charge ATS etc), but we don't really support Arch, and I'm the only one there with experience with Arch.. so it would truly be unmanaged, unless you happen to catch me as your support technician when you open a support ticket..
>
> That being said - get a dedicated server from us and I'll gladly throw Arch on there for ya! (I honestly think out of our 5000+ servers, there is not ONE with Arch .. lol)

You probably should have responded to arch-general@archlinux.org rather than my
address. Either that or you're spamming me. Please don't.

Protip: Make your email client respect the Reply-To header.
 
Old 03-20-2010, 09:50 AM
Peter Cannon
 
Default Dedicated Arch servers

On 20/03/10 09:13, Jonathan Brown wrote:
> Dude relax - I was offering you the services of the company I work for. However, I far from own the company, I am just a tech. Even so, I didn't feel it was appropriate to respond to the mailing list. Sorry that offended you so much.
>
> Spamming you? Absolutely not sir. I am a proud arch user is all- I don't sit here reading thru the Arch list skimming for opportuniites, I just felt like it would be more appropriate to respond to you directly. If that is against the mailing list rules I shaint do it again.

Hi Jonathan

You can email me directly any time you like. People should learn what
'spam' is, spam is not just unsolicited e.g it was not asked for, but
also usually offers a product or service you was not really looking for.

Clearly this is not the case on both levels. As far as I'm aware your
action was correct in offering a service off-list. While in some groups
it is perfectly acceptable to give prices and promote company's others
frown on it.

As the request was subjected "Dedicated Arch servers" I take the view
someone is looking to purchase a service.

Take Care
 
Old 03-20-2010, 01:35 PM
Jonathan Brown
 
Default Dedicated Arch servers

Thanks a lot Peter. Appreciate the support. Truly, I had absolutely no inkling that there was anything wrong about emailing him directly. It just didn't feel quite right to reply to the ML is all. My intent was actually the opposite of what he thought I was doing; What I didn't want to do was have the whole ML see a clearly biased recommendation, which might have actually seemed like spam if I had done that. In fact, I was rather stunned by his response, and that is why I replied to it via the ML; I actually wanted to get a take from others on the list to see if what I did was uncouth.

I just thought it would be cool to finally do an install with Arch.... like I said I don't think we have any servers with Arch on them- anyway, that will be my last conversation with him, given that he apparently thinks I'm some sort of Arch-list-lurker-spammer dude..

Regards,
Jon



----- Original Message ----
From: Peter Cannon <dick_turpin@archlinux.us>
To: arch-general@archlinux.org
Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 6:50:43 AM
Subject: Re: [arch-general] Dedicated Arch servers

On 20/03/10 09:13, Jonathan Brown wrote:
> Dude relax - I was offering you the services of the company I work for. However, I far from own the company, I am just a tech. Even so, I didn't feel it was appropriate to respond to the mailing list. Sorry that offended you so much.
>
> Spamming you? Absolutely not sir. I am a proud arch user is all- I don't sit here reading thru the Arch list skimming for opportuniites, I just felt like it would be more appropriate to respond to you directly. If that is against the mailing list rules I shaint do it again.

Hi Jonathan

You can email me directly any time you like. People should learn what
'spam' is, spam is not just unsolicited e.g it was not asked for, but
also usually offers a product or service you was not really looking for.

Clearly this is not the case on both levels. As far as I'm aware your
action was correct in offering a service off-list. While in some groups
it is perfectly acceptable to give prices and promote company's others
frown on it.

As the request was subjected "Dedicated Arch servers" I take the view
someone is looking to purchase a service.

Take Care
 
Old 03-20-2010, 01:45 PM
Jonathan Brown
 
Default Dedicated Arch servers

Actually, it appears I emailed the wrong person directly. Sam was not the originator of the "Dedicated Arch servers" thread.

My apologies Sam.



----- Original Message ----
From: Jonathan Brown <jbssfl@yahoo.com>
To: dick_turpin@archlinux.us; General Discussion about Arch Linux <arch-general@archlinux.org>
Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 10:35:42 AM
Subject: Re: [arch-general] Dedicated Arch servers

Thanks a lot Peter. Appreciate the support. Truly, I had absolutely no inkling that there was anything wrong about emailing him directly. It just didn't feel quite right to reply to the ML is all. My intent was actually the opposite of what he thought I was doing; What I didn't want to do was have the whole ML see a clearly biased recommendation, which might have actually seemed like spam if I had done that. In fact, I was rather stunned by his response, and that is why I replied to it via the ML; I actually wanted to get a take from others on the list to see if what I did was uncouth.

I just thought it would be cool to finally do an install with Arch.... like I said I don't think we have any servers with Arch on them- anyway, that will be my last conversation with him, given that he apparently thinks I'm some sort of Arch-list-lurker-spammer dude..

Regards,
Jon



----- Original Message ----
From: Peter Cannon <dick_turpin@archlinux.us>
To: arch-general@archlinux.org
Sent: Sat, March 20, 2010 6:50:43 AM
Subject: Re: [arch-general] Dedicated Arch servers

On 20/03/10 09:13, Jonathan Brown wrote:
> Dude relax - I was offering you the services of the company I work for. However, I far from own the company, I am just a tech. Even so, I didn't feel it was appropriate to respond to the mailing list. Sorry that offended you so much.
>
> Spamming you? Absolutely not sir. I am a proud arch user is all- I don't sit here reading thru the Arch list skimming for opportuniites, I just felt like it would be more appropriate to respond to you directly. If that is against the mailing list rules I shaint do it again.

Hi Jonathan

You can email me directly any time you like. People should learn what
'spam' is, spam is not just unsolicited e.g it was not asked for, but
also usually offers a product or service you was not really looking for.

Clearly this is not the case on both levels. As far as I'm aware your
action was correct in offering a service off-list. While in some groups
it is perfectly acceptable to give prices and promote company's others
frown on it.

As the request was subjected "Dedicated Arch servers" I take the view
someone is looking to purchase a service.

Take Care
 

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