Hi all,

I'd like to update our servers this weekend. Does anybody want to join?
Especially the python -> pathon2 transition scares me so I am in need of
someone familiar with python and the custom scripts we use (our django
website, repo-read etc.)

I'll list the packages to be upgraded on each server so please have a
look and tell me if you'd expect any other problems. Maybe someone wants
to update the xen kernel stuff while we are at it. At least the openssl
update is security related.

pierre@gerolde ~ % pacman -Qu
abs 2.3.4.1-1
apr-util 1.3.9-4
bash 4.1.007-1
bash-completion 1.2-1
binutils 2.20.1-3
bzip2 1.0.5-5
coreutils 8.5-2
ctags 5.8-1
curl 7.21.1-1
db 4.8.26-2
dialog 1.1_20100428-1
django 1.2.3-1
elfutils 0.148-1
fakeroot 1.14.4-2
file 5.04-2
filesystem 2010.07-1
findutils 4.4.2-2
freetype2 2.4.2-1
gawk 3.1.8-1
gcc 4.5.1-1
gcc-libs 4.5.1-1
gdb 7.2-1
git 1.7.2.3-2
glib2 2.24.2-1
glibc 2.12.1-1
gpm 1.20.6-5
grep 2.6.3-1
gzip 1.4-1
heimdal 1.3.3-1
initscripts 2010.07-1
iotop 0.4.1-1
iproute2 2.6.35-3
jfsutils 1.1.14-1
kernel26 2.6.35.4-2
less 436-1
libarchive 2.8.4-1
libevent 1.4.14b-1
libldap 2.4.22-1
libmysqlclient 5.1.50-1
libpng 1.4.3-1
libsasl 2.1.23-4
libtool 2.2.10-3
libusb 0.1.12-4
libxml2 2.7.7-1
libxslt 1.1.26-1
lighttpd 1.4.28-2
linux-firmware 20100807-1
logrotate 3.7.8-1
lsof 4.83-1
lzo2 2.03-1
man-db 2.5.7-1
man-pages 3.26-1
mlocate 0.22.4-2
mpfr 3.0.0-2
mysql-clients 5.1.50-1
mysql-python 1.2.3c1-2
nano 2.2.5-1
ncurses 5.7-3
openssl 1.0.0.a-3
pam 1.1.1-1
pcre 8.10-1
perl 5.12.1-2
postfix 2.7.1-1
postgresql-libs 8.4.4-5
procps 3.2.8-1
python 2.6.5-3
python-memcached 1.45-1
python-pip 0.8.1-1
python-south 0.7.2-2
python-virtualenv 1.4.9-1
readline 6.1.002-1
screen 4.0.3-8
sed 4.2.1-2
sqlite3 3.7.2-1
subversion 1.6.9-5
sysvinit 2.86-5
tar 1.23-3
texinfo 4.13a-4
tzdata 2010l-1
udev 162-1
usbutils 0.90-1
vim 7.3.3-1
vim-runtime 7.3.3-1
which 2.20-3
xdelta 1.1.4-2
xinetd 2.3.14-5
xz 4.999.9beta_174_g41bc-1

pierre@gerolde ~ % pacman -Qm
joe 3.7-2
postfix-policyd-spf-perl 2.007-1
setuptools 0.6c11-2
webalizer 2.21-2

pierre@gudrun ~ % pacman -Qu
apache 2.2.16-1
apr-util 1.3.9-4
bash 4.1.007-1
bash-completion 1.2-1
binutils 2.20.1-3
bzip2 1.0.5-5
coreutils 8.5-2
curl 7.21.1-1
db 4.8.26-2
dialog 1.1_20100428-1
django 1.2.3-1
elfutils 0.148-1
file 5.04-2
filesystem 2010.07-1
findutils 4.4.2-2
freetype2 2.4.2-1
gawk 3.1.8-1
gcc-libs 4.5.1-1
git 1.7.2.3-2
glib2 2.24.2-1
glibc 2.12.1-1
gpm 1.20.6-5
grep 2.6.3-1
gzip 1.4-1
heimdal 1.3.3-1
initscripts 2010.07-1
iotop 0.4.1-1
jfsutils 1.1.14-1
kernel26 2.6.35.4-2
less 436-1
libarchive 2.8.4-1
libevent 1.4.14b-1
libldap 2.4.22-1
libmemcached 0.43-1
libmysqlclient 5.1.50-1
libpng 1.4.3-1
libsasl 2.1.23-4
libtasn1 2.6-1
libtool 2.2.10-3
libusb 0.1.12-4
libxml2 2.7.7-1
linux-firmware 20100807-1
logrotate 3.7.8-1
lsof 4.83-1
lzo2 2.03-1
mailman 2.1.11-2
man-db 2.5.7-1
man-pages 3.26-1
mlocate 0.22.4-2
mod_wsgi 3.2-1
mysql 5.1.50-1
mysql-clients 5.1.50-1
mysql-python 1.2.3c1-2
nano 2.2.5-1
ncurses 5.7-3
openssl 1.0.0.a-3
pam 1.1.1-1
patch 2.6.1-1
pcre 8.10-1
perl 5.12.1-2
php 5.3.3-1
php-apc 3.1.4-1
php-cgi 5.3.3-1
php-mcrypt 5.3.3-1
postfix 2.7.1-1
postgresql-libs 8.4.4-5
procps 3.2.8-1
python 2.6.5-3
python-flup 1.0.2-1
python-memcached 1.45-1
python-south 0.7.2-2
readline 6.1.002-1
screen 4.0.3-8
sed 4.2.1-2
sqlite3 3.7.2-1
subversion 1.6.9-5
sysvinit 2.86-5
tar 1.23-3
texinfo 4.13a-4
tzdata 2010l-1
udev 162-1
usbutils 0.90-1
vim 7.3.3-1
vim-runtime 7.3.3-1
which 2.20-3
xinetd 2.3.14-5
xz 4.999.9beta_174_g41bc-1

pierre@gudrun ~ % pacman -Qm
db4.5 4.5.20-2
joe 3.7-2
python24 2.4.6-3
setuptools 0.6c11-2


--
Pierre Schmitz, https://users.archlinux.de/~pierre

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Pierre Schmitz <pierre@archlinux.de> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'd like to update our servers this weekend. Does anybody want to join?
> Especially the python -> pathon2 transition scares me so I am in need of
> someone familiar with python and the custom scripts we use (our django
> website, repo-read etc.)
>
> I'll list the packages to be upgraded on each server so please have a
> look and tell me if you'd expect any other problems. Maybe someone wants
> to update the xen kernel stuff while we are at it. At least the openssl
> update is security related.

The scariest thing on that list for me is mailman.

With that said, I should be around and can help at some point, namely
with the python website/database/etc stuff you mentioned; I can do
some cleanup at that time as well as this stuff is now virtualenv-ed
and we don't necessarily need to install all of the packages on the
server.

-Dan

On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:51:46 -0600, Dan McGee <dpmcgee@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Pierre Schmitz <pierre@archlinux.de> wrote:
>> I'll list the packages to be upgraded on each server so please have a
>> look and tell me if you'd expect any other problems. Maybe someone wants
>> to update the xen kernel stuff while we are at it. At least the openssl
>> update is security related.
>
> The scariest thing on that list for me is mailman.

Everybody seems to hate mailman. Andy is updating the package right
now. So if this is the last message you read you'll know who is to
blame. Thomas also had this weird idea of making a backup before.

> With that said, I should be around and can help at some point, namely
> with the python website/database/etc stuff you mentioned; I can do
> some cleanup at that time as well as this stuff is now virtualenv-ed
> and we don't necessarily need to install all of the packages on the
> server.

Thomas suggested something about 12 UTC. That might be quite early for
you :-). Would a simple -Syu break django or could you do your cleanups
afterwards?

--
Pierre Schmitz, https://users.archlinux.de/~pierre

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Pierre Schmitz <pierre@archlinux.de> wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:51:46 -0600, Dan McGee <dpmcgee@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Pierre Schmitz <pierre@archlinux.de> wrote:
>>> I'll list the packages to be upgraded on each server so please have a
>>> look and tell me if you'd expect any other problems. Maybe someone wants
>>> to update the xen kernel stuff while we are at it. At least the openssl
>>> update is security related.
>>
>> The scariest thing on that list for me is mailman.
>
> Everybody seems to hate mailman. Andy is updating the package right
> now. So if this is the last message you read you'll know who is to
> blame. Thomas also had this weird idea of making a backup before.

Rebuilding a version for an old python then? This is tied to the 2.7
upgrade, no?

>> With that said, I should be around and can help at some point, namely
>> with the python website/database/etc stuff you mentioned; I can do
>> some cleanup at that time as well as this stuff is now virtualenv-ed
>> and we don't necessarily need to install all of the packages on the
>> server.
>
> Thomas suggested something about 12 UTC. That might be quite early for
> you :-).
Saturday morning for me then at 6AM? Quite early. If you guys can
do it 2 hours later at 14:00 UTC I can show up and hope my coffee is
strong.

Would a simple -Syu break django or could you do your cleanups
> afterwards?
Yes it would, unfortunately. :/ Any major version bump blows things
up. If you start with gerolde, things should? be OK there, gudrun is
where the issues will likely come up.

-Dan

On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:11:37 -0600, Dan McGee <dpmcgee@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Would a simple -Syu break django or could you do your cleanups
>> afterwards?
> Yes it would, unfortunately. :/ Any major version bump blows things
> up. If you start with gerolde, things should? be OK there, gudrun is
> where the issues will likely come up.

What about the cronjobs on gerolde that are run by archweb? Don't they
need django, too?

--
Pierre Schmitz, https://users.archlinux.de/~pierre

On Friday, December 10, 2010, Pierre Schmitz <pierre@archlinux.de> wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 15:11:37 -0600, Dan McGee <dpmcgee@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> *Would a simple -Syu break django or could you do your cleanups
>>> afterwards?
>> Yes it would, unfortunately. :/ Any major version bump blows things
>> up. If you start with gerolde, things should? be OK there, gudrun is
>> where the issues will likely come up.
>
> What about the cronjobs on gerolde that are run by archweb? Don't they
> need django,

They don't run in a virtualenv