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Aaron Griffin 03-12-2010 09:35 PM

Allow comments on closed bugs?
 
Does anyone have an opinion on this?

In my eyes, I imagine the kind of people who want this feature simply
wish to argue about the closing. I've had to deal with enough PM
requests in the past to know that this _does_ happen.

Opinions?

Daenyth Blank 03-12-2010 09:37 PM

Allow comments on closed bugs?
 
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 17:35, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone have an opinion on this?
I can go both ways on it. I think that the *primary* use is just to
whine when a bug is closed, but in the past I've also seen cases where
it legitimately added to the discussion.

Allan McRae 03-12-2010 09:39 PM

Allow comments on closed bugs?
 
On 13/03/10 08:35, Aaron Griffin wrote:

Does anyone have an opinion on this?

In my eyes, I imagine the kind of people who want this feature simply
wish to argue about the closing. I've had to deal with enough PM
requests in the past to know that this _does_ happen.

Opinions?



I really do not see the need.

If a bug is wrongly closed -> request a reopen.
If you just want to confirm a bug has been fixed, there is no need...
we already closed the bug report.

If there is a "better" fix, reopen request or new bug report.

Allan

Xavier Chantry 03-12-2010 10:13 PM

Allow comments on closed bugs?
 
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Allan McRae <allan@archlinux.org> wrote:
> On 13/03/10 08:35, Aaron Griffin wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone have an opinion on this?
>>
>> In my eyes, I imagine the kind of people who want this feature simply
>> wish to argue about the closing. I've had to deal with enough PM
>> requests in the past to know that this _does_ happen.
>>
>> Opinions?
>>
>
> I really do not see the need.
>
> If a bug is wrongly closed -> request a reopen.
> If you just want to confirm a bug has been fixed, there is no need... we
> already closed the bug report.
> If there is a "better" fix, reopen request or new bug report.
>

Closing bugs should not be a race, I had several times the feeling
that a bug was closed too fast and it can indeed be annoying.
Ideally the one who opened the bug should give an ACK for having their
bug closed.
There is always something to say. At least a confirmation that the bug
was fixed. Eventually a comment about how it was fixed.
And you might have additional information / explanation /
clarification that is mostly interesting for the people who followed
that bug.
It seems completely stupid to need a reopen request just to do that.

Allan McRae 03-12-2010 10:38 PM

Allow comments on closed bugs?
 
On 13/03/10 09:13, Xavier Chantry wrote:

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Allan McRae<allan@archlinux.org> wrote:

On 13/03/10 08:35, Aaron Griffin wrote:


Does anyone have an opinion on this?

In my eyes, I imagine the kind of people who want this feature simply
wish to argue about the closing. I've had to deal with enough PM
requests in the past to know that this _does_ happen.

Opinions?



I really do not see the need.

If a bug is wrongly closed -> request a reopen.
If you just want to confirm a bug has been fixed, there is no need... we
already closed the bug report.
If there is a "better" fix, reopen request or new bug report.



Closing bugs should not be a race, I had several times the feeling
that a bug was closed too fast and it can indeed be annoying.
Ideally the one who opened the bug should give an ACK for having their
bug closed.
There is always something to say. At least a confirmation that the bug
was fixed. Eventually a comment about how it was fixed.
And you might have additional information / explanation /
clarification that is mostly interesting for the people who followed
that bug.
It seems completely stupid to need a reopen request just to do that.


If we need a confirmation the bug is fixed, then the bug should not be
closed straight away. But if a bug is definitely fixed and I close it,
I really do not need further confirmation it is fixed. I fact, the only
time I ever want to hear about the bug again is if it is not fixed.


Given the useless reopen requests I have seen and denied repeatedly
(such as patching in a new feature), I really would not like to
continually be notified of such posts. So closing a bug becomes 1)
remove yourself from assignees, 2) remove from notification, 3) close bug.


Allan

Andrea Scarpino 03-12-2010 10:42 PM

Allow comments on closed bugs?
 
On Friday 12 March 2010 23:39:05 Allan McRae wrote:
> I really do not see the need.
>
> If a bug is wrongly closed -> request a reopen.
> If you just want to confirm a bug has been fixed, there is no need...
> we already closed the bug report.
> If there is a "better" fix, reopen request or new bug report.
+1
we do not need comments on closed bug

--
Andrea

Aaron Griffin 03-12-2010 10:48 PM

Allow comments on closed bugs?
 
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Allan McRae <allan@archlinux.org> wrote:
> So closing a bug becomes 1) remove yourself from
> assignees, 2) remove from notification, 3) close bug.

This is what worries me the most. If comments on old bugs are allowed,
this will become the norm.


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