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Old 11-16-2009, 06:35 PM
Eric Bélanger
 
Default Status of gimp/gimp-devel

Hi,

Currently, both gimp and gimp-devel are out of date. The latest
versions require updates of both babl and gegl but the gegl app in the
gegl package seg fault. This is a confirmed upstream issue:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591908. I've been waiting
for a fix but nothing so far. This is still not fixed upstream and I
wasn't able to find any patches. Either other distros haven't updated
yet to gegl 0.1.0 or they have updated but haven't fixed the issue.
If someone is interested in working toward making a patch, then it'll
be much appreciated.

Anyway, the gimp packages have been out-of-date for several months
now. On one hand, I'm not too warm about updating these packages
knowing about the gegl seg fault problem (that's one reason why I've
waited so long). On the other hand, having a popular package like gimp
out-of-date for so long isn't a good idea either. So what should we
do?

1) Continue to wait until we have a fix for the seg fault.

2) Update the packages knowing that the gegl binary will be broken
until there is a patch or new gegl version that will fix it. Gegl
support in gimp itself works fine as far as I could test it.

Any ideas, suggestions, comments are welcome.

Eric
 
Old 11-16-2009, 09:50 PM
Xavier
 
Default Status of gimp/gimp-devel

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Eric Bélanger <snowmaniscool@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Currently, both gimp and gimp-devel are out of date. The latest
> versions require updates of both babl and gegl but the gegl app in the
> gegl package seg fault. This is a confirmed upstream issue:
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591908. * I've been waiting
> for a fix but nothing so far. This is still not fixed upstream and I
> wasn't able to find any patches. *Either other distros haven't updated
> yet to gegl 0.1.0 or they have updated but haven't fixed the issue.
> If someone is interested in working toward making a patch, then it'll
> be much appreciated.
>
> Anyway, the gimp packages have been out-of-date for several months
> now. On one hand, I'm not too warm about updating these packages
> knowing about the gegl seg fault problem (that's one reason why I've
> waited so long). On the other hand, having a popular package like gimp
> out-of-date for so long isn't a good idea either. So what should we
> do?
>
> 1) Continue to wait until we have a fix for the seg fault.
>
> 2) Update the packages knowing that the gegl binary will be broken
> until there is a patch or new gegl version that will fix it. Gegl
> support in gimp itself works fine as far as I could test it.
>
> Any ideas, suggestions, comments are welcome.
>
> Eric
>

Well at least there seems to be a clue about what's going on :
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591908#c4
So probably efforts should be made in that direction
 
Old 11-17-2009, 03:49 PM
Eric Bélanger
 
Default Status of gimp/gimp-devel

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Xavier <shiningxc@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Eric Bélanger <snowmaniscool@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Currently, both gimp and gimp-devel are out of date. The latest
>> versions require updates of both babl and gegl but the gegl app in the
>> gegl package seg fault. This is a confirmed upstream issue:
>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591908. * I've been waiting
>> for a fix but nothing so far. This is still not fixed upstream and I
>> wasn't able to find any patches. *Either other distros haven't updated
>> yet to gegl 0.1.0 or they have updated but haven't fixed the issue.
>> If someone is interested in working toward making a patch, then it'll
>> be much appreciated.
>>
>> Anyway, the gimp packages have been out-of-date for several months
>> now. On one hand, I'm not too warm about updating these packages
>> knowing about the gegl seg fault problem (that's one reason why I've
>> waited so long). On the other hand, having a popular package like gimp
>> out-of-date for so long isn't a good idea either. So what should we
>> do?
>>
>> 1) Continue to wait until we have a fix for the seg fault.
>>
>> 2) Update the packages knowing that the gegl binary will be broken
>> until there is a patch or new gegl version that will fix it. Gegl
>> support in gimp itself works fine as far as I could test it.
>>
>> Any ideas, suggestions, comments are welcome.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>
> Well at least there seems to be a clue about what's going on :
> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591908#c4
> So probably efforts should be made in that direction
>

Sure, but I was unable to come up with a patch. I don't have much
time to devote to Arch anymore. So, as far as I'm concerned, it'll be
either one of the two proposed options.
 
Old 11-28-2009, 06:42 PM
Eric Bélanger
 
Default Status of gimp/gimp-devel

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Eric Bélanger <snowmaniscool@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Xavier <shiningxc@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Eric Bélanger <snowmaniscool@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Currently, both gimp and gimp-devel are out of date. The latest
>>> versions require updates of both babl and gegl but the gegl app in the
>>> gegl package seg fault. This is a confirmed upstream issue:
>>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591908. * I've been waiting
>>> for a fix but nothing so far. This is still not fixed upstream and I
>>> wasn't able to find any patches. *Either other distros haven't updated
>>> yet to gegl 0.1.0 or they have updated but haven't fixed the issue.
>>> If someone is interested in working toward making a patch, then it'll
>>> be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Anyway, the gimp packages have been out-of-date for several months
>>> now. On one hand, I'm not too warm about updating these packages
>>> knowing about the gegl seg fault problem (that's one reason why I've
>>> waited so long). On the other hand, having a popular package like gimp
>>> out-of-date for so long isn't a good idea either. So what should we
>>> do?
>>>
>>> 1) Continue to wait until we have a fix for the seg fault.
>>>
>>> 2) Update the packages knowing that the gegl binary will be broken
>>> until there is a patch or new gegl version that will fix it. Gegl
>>> support in gimp itself works fine as far as I could test it.
>>>
>>> Any ideas, suggestions, comments are welcome.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>
>> Well at least there seems to be a clue about what's going on :
>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591908#c4
>> So probably efforts should be made in that direction
>>
>
> Sure, but I was unable to come up with a patch. *I don't have much
> time to devote to Arch anymore. So, as far as I'm concerned, it'll be
> either one of the two proposed options.
>

As no-one seem to care, I'll go with option 2 and update the packages
sometime this week-end or next week.
 
Old 11-28-2009, 07:11 PM
Xavier
 
Default Status of gimp/gimp-devel

On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Eric Bélanger <snowmaniscool@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> As no-one seem to care, I'll go with option 2 and update the packages
> sometime this week-end or next week.
>

You remind me that I installed gegl and gimp git (AUR packages) 10 days ago :
local/gegl-git 20091117-1 [1,75 MB]
local/gimp-git 20091117-1 [49,85 MB]

I cannot reproduce any segfaults in gimp or gegl. What do I have to do ?
Running gegl does show a lot of warnings but never any segfaults.
Running gimp does not show any errors or warnings.
But that's on i686. Is it a x86-64 specific problem ?

> gegl

** (gegl:4825): WARNING **: Failed to set operation type gegl:src-in,
using a passthrough op instead

** (gegl:4825): WARNING **: gegl_node_connect_from: Didn't find pad
'aux' of 'gegl:nop 0x93beaa8'

** (gegl:4825): WARNING **: gegl_node_pads_exist: Can't find sink
property aux of gegl:nop 0x93beaa8

** (gegl:4825): WARNING **: Failed to set operation type gegl:src-in,
using a passthrough op instead

** (gegl:4825): WARNING **: gegl_node_connect_from: Didn't find pad
'aux' of 'gegl:nop 0x9432b70'

** (gegl:4825): WARNING **: gegl_node_pads_exist: Can't find sink
property aux of gegl:nop 0x9432b70

** (gegl:4825): WARNING **: Failed to set operation type gegl:src-in,
using a passthrough op instead

** (gegl:4825): WARNING **: gegl_node_connect_from: Didn't find pad
'aux' of 'gegl:nop 0x944d070'

** (gegl:4825): WARNING **: gegl_node_pads_exist: Can't find sink
property aux of gegl:nop 0x944d070

** (gegl:4825): WARNING **: Failed to set operation type gegl:src-in,
using a passthrough op instead

** (gegl:4825): WARNING **: gegl_node_connect_from: Didn't find pad
'aux' of 'gegl:nop 0x944d4d8'

** (gegl:4825): WARNING **: gegl_node_pads_exist: Can't find sink
property aux of gegl:nop 0x944d4d8
 
Old 11-28-2009, 07:15 PM
Eric Bélanger
 
Default Status of gimp/gimp-devel

On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Xavier <shiningxc@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Eric Bélanger <snowmaniscool@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> As no-one seem to care, I'll go with option 2 and update the packages
>> sometime this week-end or next week.
>>
>
> You remind me that I installed gegl and gimp git (AUR packages) 10 days ago :
> local/gegl-git 20091117-1 [1,75 MB]
> local/gimp-git 20091117-1 [49,85 MB]
>
> I cannot reproduce any segfaults in gimp or gegl. What do I have to do ?
> Running gegl does show a lot of warnings but never any segfaults.
> Running gimp does not show any errors or warnings.
> But that's on i686. Is it a x86-64 specific problem ?
>

Does the gegl GUI starts?
 
Old 11-28-2009, 07:49 PM
Xavier
 
Default Status of gimp/gimp-devel

On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Eric Bélanger <snowmaniscool@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Xavier <shiningxc@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Eric Bélanger <snowmaniscool@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> As no-one seem to care, I'll go with option 2 and update the packages
>>> sometime this week-end or next week.
>>>
>>
>> You remind me that I installed gegl and gimp git (AUR packages) 10 days ago :
>> local/gegl-git 20091117-1 [1,75 MB]
>> local/gimp-git 20091117-1 [49,85 MB]
>>
>> I cannot reproduce any segfaults in gimp or gegl. What do I have to do ?
>> Running gegl does show a lot of warnings but never any segfaults.
>> Running gimp does not show any errors or warnings.
>> But that's on i686. Is it a x86-64 specific problem ?
>>
>
> Does the gegl GUI starts?
>

Ah there is a GUI ?
I just got an empty window. Since gegl seemed to be a library, that
did not bother me too much.

I just tried in Gimp : Tools -> gegl action . And it seems to work fine.
 
Old 11-30-2009, 08:04 PM
Eric Bélanger
 
Default Status of gimp/gimp-devel

On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Xavier <shiningxc@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Eric Bélanger <snowmaniscool@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Xavier <shiningxc@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Eric Bélanger <snowmaniscool@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As no-one seem to care, I'll go with option 2 and update the packages
>>>> sometime this week-end or next week.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You remind me that I installed gegl and gimp git (AUR packages) 10 days ago :
>>> local/gegl-git 20091117-1 [1,75 MB]
>>> local/gimp-git 20091117-1 [49,85 MB]
>>>
>>> I cannot reproduce any segfaults in gimp or gegl. What do I have to do ?
>>> Running gegl does show a lot of warnings but never any segfaults.
>>> Running gimp does not show any errors or warnings.
>>> But that's on i686. Is it a x86-64 specific problem ?
>>>
>>
>> Does the gegl GUI starts?
>>
>
> Ah there is a GUI ?
> I just got an empty window. Since gegl seemed to be a library, that
> did not bother me too much.
>
> I just tried in Gimp : Tools -> gegl action . And it seems to work fine.
>

FYI: Everything has been updated. For gegl, I used a git snapshot as
it seemed to work better than the 0.1.0 release. The display window
doesn't have a menu bar as in 0.0.22 but that might be a feature.
Anyway, it doesn't seg fault. I also tested several gegl operations in
gimp and everything worked fine.
 

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