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Old 10-31-2009, 08:12 PM
Tobias Powalowski
 
Default xorg moved, nvidia legacy driver issues

Hi guys,
Since xorg has moved to extra repository,
we will have broken nvidia legacy drivers:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=139388&highlight=x.org

We will see how fast new fixed legacy drivers will be released, if ever.

As alternatives, you can use nouveau, nv or vesa drivers instead.
Negative effect, you lose 3D functionality,
but you gain a none tainted system

Have fun,
greetings
tpowa
--
Tobias Powalowski
Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa)
http://www.archlinux.org
tpowa@archlinux.org
 
Old 10-31-2009, 08:15 PM
Thomas Bächler
 
Default xorg moved, nvidia legacy driver issues

Tobias Powalowski schrieb:

Hi guys,
Since xorg has moved to extra repository,
we will have broken nvidia legacy drivers:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=139388&highlight=x.org


Pierre tested this, and this also concerns the 173 series.
 
Old 10-31-2009, 08:18 PM
Tobias Powalowski
 
Default xorg moved, nvidia legacy driver issues

Am Samstag 31 Oktober 2009 schrieb Thomas Bächler:
> Tobias Powalowski schrieb:
> > Hi guys,
> > Since xorg has moved to extra repository,
> > we will have broken nvidia legacy drivers:
> > http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=139388&highlight=x.org
>
> Pierre tested this, and this also concerns the 173 series.
>
Yes, both legacy drivers are affected, 173 and 96 series.
greetings
tpowa
--
Tobias Powalowski
Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa)
http://www.archlinux.org
tpowa@archlinux.org
 
Old 11-01-2009, 03:27 PM
Andrea Scarpino
 
Default xorg moved, nvidia legacy driver issues

On 31/10/2009, Tobias Powalowski <t.powa@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi guys,
> Since xorg has moved to extra repository,
> we will have broken nvidia legacy drivers:
> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=139388&highlight=x.org
>
> We will see how fast new fixed legacy drivers will be released, if ever.
>
> As alternatives, you can use nouveau, nv or vesa drivers instead.
> Negative effect, you lose 3D functionality,
> but you gain a none tainted system
Why you didn't write an announcement for this?

--
Andrea `bash` Scarpino
Arch Linux Developer
 
Old 11-01-2009, 04:17 PM
Andreas Radke
 
Default xorg moved, nvidia legacy driver issues

Am Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:27:52 +0100
schrieb Andrea Scarpino <andrea@archlinux.org>:

> On 31/10/2009, Tobias Powalowski <t.powa@gmx.de> wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> > Since xorg has moved to extra repository,
> > we will have broken nvidia legacy drivers:
> > http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=139388&highlight=x.org
> >
> > We will see how fast new fixed legacy drivers will be released, if
> > ever.
> >
> > As alternatives, you can use nouveau, nv or vesa drivers instead.
> > Negative effect, you lose 3D functionality,
> > but you gain a none tainted system
> Why you didn't write an announcement for this?
>

Because we didn't know this for sure. There wasn't any bug report left.
And I'm totally against holding back anything because of closed stuff.

-Andy
 
Old 11-01-2009, 08:02 PM
Dieter Plaetinck
 
Default xorg moved, nvidia legacy driver issues

On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:17:48 +0100
Andreas Radke <a.radke@arcor.de> wrote:

> Am Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:27:52 +0100
> schrieb Andrea Scarpino <andrea@archlinux.org>:
>
> > On 31/10/2009, Tobias Powalowski <t.powa@gmx.de> wrote:
> > > Hi guys,
> > > Since xorg has moved to extra repository,
> > > we will have broken nvidia legacy drivers:
> > > http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=139388&highlight=x.org
> > >
> > > We will see how fast new fixed legacy drivers will be released, if
> > > ever.
> > >
> > > As alternatives, you can use nouveau, nv or vesa drivers instead.
> > > Negative effect, you lose 3D functionality,
> > > but you gain a none tainted system
> > Why you didn't write an announcement for this?
> >
>
> Because we didn't know this for sure. There wasn't any bug report
> left. And I'm totally against holding back anything because of closed
> stuff.
>
> -Andy

crap.
i totally missed this mail.
i suggest to put a newsitem about this on the frontpage. better late
then never.

Dieter
 
Old 11-01-2009, 08:08 PM
Pierre Schmitz
 
Default xorg moved, nvidia legacy driver issues

On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 22:02:54 +0100, Dieter Plaetinck <dieter@plaetinck.be>
wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:17:48 +0100
> Andreas Radke <a.radke@arcor.de> wrote:
>
>> Am Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:27:52 +0100
>> schrieb Andrea Scarpino <andrea@archlinux.org>:
>>
>> > On 31/10/2009, Tobias Powalowski <t.powa@gmx.de> wrote:
>> > > Hi guys,
>> > > Since xorg has moved to extra repository,
>> > > we will have broken nvidia legacy drivers:
>> > >
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=139388&highlight=x.org
>> > >
>> > > We will see how fast new fixed legacy drivers will be released, if
>> > > ever.
>> > >
>> > > As alternatives, you can use nouveau, nv or vesa drivers instead.
>> > > Negative effect, you lose 3D functionality,
>> > > but you gain a none tainted system
>> > Why you didn't write an announcement for this?
>> >
>>
>> Because we didn't know this for sure. There wasn't any bug report
>> left. And I'm totally against holding back anything because of closed
>> stuff.
>>
>> -Andy
>
> crap.
> i totally missed this mail.
> i suggest to put a newsitem about this on the frontpage. better late
> then never.
>
> Dieter

What about adding the legacy drivers to xorg-servers conflict array and
remove them from the repo?

--
Pierre Schmitz, https://users.archlinux.de/~pierre
 
Old 11-01-2009, 08:42 PM
Tobias Powalowski
 
Default xorg moved, nvidia legacy driver issues

Am Sonntag 01 November 2009 schrieb Pierre Schmitz:
> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 22:02:54 +0100, Dieter Plaetinck <dieter@plaetinck.be>
>
> wrote:
> > On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:17:48 +0100
> >
> > Andreas Radke <a.radke@arcor.de> wrote:
> >> Am Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:27:52 +0100
> >>
> >> schrieb Andrea Scarpino <andrea@archlinux.org>:
> >> > On 31/10/2009, Tobias Powalowski <t.powa@gmx.de> wrote:
> >> > > Hi guys,
> >> > > Since xorg has moved to extra repository,
> >> > > we will have broken nvidia legacy drivers:
>
> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=139388&highlight=x.org
>
> >> > > We will see how fast new fixed legacy drivers will be released, if
> >> > > ever.
> >> > >
> >> > > As alternatives, you can use nouveau, nv or vesa drivers instead.
> >> > > Negative effect, you lose 3D functionality,
> >> > > but you gain a none tainted system
> >> >
> >> > Why you didn't write an announcement for this?
> >>
> >> Because we didn't know this for sure. There wasn't any bug report
> >> left. And I'm totally against holding back anything because of closed
> >> stuff.
> >>
> >> -Andy
> >
> > crap.
> > i totally missed this mail.
> > i suggest to put a newsitem about this on the frontpage. better late
> > then never.
> >
> > Dieter
>
> What about adding the legacy drivers to xorg-servers conflict array and
> remove them from the repo?
>
Shouldn't we gave them(nvidia) some time to fix this before removing it from
the repo?
Just a thought.
greetings
tpowa
--
Tobias Powalowski
Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa)
http://www.archlinux.org
tpowa@archlinux.org
 
Old 11-01-2009, 09:11 PM
Thomas Bächler
 
Default xorg moved, nvidia legacy driver issues

Tobias Powalowski schrieb:

Dieter

What about adding the legacy drivers to xorg-servers conflict array and
remove them from the repo?

Shouldn't we gave them(nvidia) some time to fix this before removing it from
the repo?

Just a thought.
greetings
tpowa


We can always leave the PKGBUILDs in trunk and re-add the packages as
soon as they release a fixed version.
 
Old 11-01-2009, 09:19 PM
Pierre Schmitz
 
Default xorg moved, nvidia legacy driver issues

On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:11:17 +0100, Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org>
wrote:
> Tobias Powalowski schrieb:
>>>> Dieter
>>> What about adding the legacy drivers to xorg-servers conflict array
and
>>> remove them from the repo?
>>>
>> Shouldn't we gave them(nvidia) some time to fix this before removing it
>> from
>> the repo?
>> Just a thought.
>> greetings
>> tpowa
>
> We can always leave the PKGBUILDs in trunk and re-add the packages as
> soon as they release a fixed version.

Idid not mean to wipe them completely from our svn. Just doing a db-remove
and adding the correct conflicts to xorg-server should be enough. Keeping
broken dirvers in the repos is more confusing.

--
Pierre Schmitz, https://users.archlinux.de/~pierre
 

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