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Old 07-01-2008, 01:30 AM
Paul Mattal
 
Default Eclipse: planning a switch to binaries

All,

After much of my hair is missing on account of tearing it out (David
Rosenstrauch's too) trying to get everything we want out of an Eclipse
build-- or even just a version that can consistently build-- I'm
planning to switch main eclipse over to the prebuilt binary.


Why? Here's the reasons:

1) Better compatibility. The eclipse foundation uses something like 7
JVMs in their build process, and builds everything for optimal
compatibility.


2) The eclipse foundation's build process is "too complicated for you"
and can't be recreated by mere mortals.


3) The annoying "Assembling..." bug that has plagued us for years and
causes only 1 out of every 5-10 attempts to make eclipse to actually work.


4) No clear benefit (possibly a little sacrificed speed) of continuing
to build from source.


So I'm waiting until Wednesday (7/3) to hear counterpoints on this, and
then switching the main eclipse and eclipse-cdt packages over to build
from eclipse foundation binaries. Please register your feedback here!


Best,
Paul
 
Old 07-01-2008, 01:54 AM
Eric Belanger
 
Default Eclipse: planning a switch to binaries

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008, Paul Mattal wrote:


All,

After much of my hair is missing on account of tearing it out (David
Rosenstrauch's too) trying to get everything we want out of an Eclipse
build-- or even just a version that can consistently build-- I'm planning to
switch main eclipse over to the prebuilt binary.


Why? Here's the reasons:

1) Better compatibility. The eclipse foundation uses something like 7 JVMs in
their build process, and builds everything for optimal compatibility.


2) The eclipse foundation's build process is "too complicated for you" and
can't be recreated by mere mortals.


3) The annoying "Assembling..." bug that has plagued us for years and causes
only 1 out of every 5-10 attempts to make eclipse to actually work.


4) No clear benefit (possibly a little sacrificed speed) of continuing to
build from source.


So I'm waiting until Wednesday (7/3) to hear counterpoints on this, and then
switching the main eclipse and eclipse-cdt packages over to build from
eclipse foundation binaries. Please register your feedback here!


Best,
Paul



Are there binaries available for x86_64? If not, that could be a problem.

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Old 07-01-2008, 02:11 AM
Paul Mattal
 
Default Eclipse: planning a switch to binaries

Eric Belanger wrote:

Are there binaries available for x86_64? If not, that could be a problem.


Both are provided.

- P
 
Old 07-01-2008, 04:11 AM
Simo Leone
 
Default Eclipse: planning a switch to binaries

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:11:39PM -0400, Paul Mattal wrote:
> Eric Belanger wrote:
>> Are there binaries available for x86_64? If not, that could be a problem.
>
> Both are provided.
>

I thought eclipse was written in Java. Anyway, +1 on just using their
binaries.

-S
 
Old 07-01-2008, 04:14 AM
"Jeff Mickey"
 
Default Eclipse: planning a switch to binaries

I'm all for freeing up your time to do anything more productive than
battling with build procedures. Like ... anything.

// jeff
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Old 07-01-2008, 07:12 AM
"Roman Kyrylych"
 
Default Eclipse: planning a switch to binaries

2008/7/1 Simo Leone <simo@archlinux.org>:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:11:39PM -0400, Paul Mattal wrote:
>> Eric Belanger wrote:
>>> Are there binaries available for x86_64? If not, that could be a problem.
>>
>> Both are provided.
>>
>
> I thought eclipse was written in Java.

Same here. :-P
The reasons are reasonable and there is x86_64, so another +1 here.

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Old 07-01-2008, 07:36 AM
Jan de Groot
 
Default Eclipse: planning a switch to binaries

On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 23:11 -0500, Simo Leone wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:11:39PM -0400, Paul Mattal wrote:
> > Eric Belanger wrote:
> >> Are there binaries available for x86_64? If not, that could be a problem.
> >
> > Both are provided.
> >
>
> I thought eclipse was written in Java. Anyway, +1 on just using their
> binaries.
>
> -S

At least for swt there's bindings to native system libraries. In case of
mozilla/xulrunner I don't think they will link correctly with xulrunner
1.9.
If this really is the case, we could always rebuild just swt from source
and use the binary eclipse. We'll build a standalone swt package from
source anyways.
 
Old 07-02-2008, 03:18 AM
Eric Belanger
 
Default Eclipse: planning a switch to binaries

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008, Paul Mattal wrote:


Eric Belanger wrote:

Are there binaries available for x86_64? If not, that could be a problem.


Both are provided.

- P



In that case, no objections from me if that can make your job easier.

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