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Old 05-29-2008, 12:30 PM
Ralf Mardorf
 
Default Modest request to everyone using 2.1rc with latest upgrades

Hi Dave

no this isn't a help. There seems to be a problem with the 64bit
version, resp. something I do misunderstand.

The alsa drivers listed by lsmod shouldn't be a problem.

Thank you for your effort.

I'm worried that I've to change back to Suse. Does anybody use an ASUS
M2A-VM HDMI and or a AMD Athlon X2 BE-2350?

Cheers,
Ralf

dave wrote:
> Hi Ralf, :-)
>
> I am going to kill this test install today,
> you might have to consider alsa, etc,.
> hope this helps.
>
> $ su
> Password:
> # apt-get update
> # apt-cache search 2.6.18-6-486
>
> # apt-get install linux-image-2.6.18-6-486 linux-headers-2.6.18-6-486 linux-headers-2.6.18-6 linux-kbuild-2.6.18 linux-doc-2.6.18
> The following NEW packages will be installed
> linux-doc-2.6.18 linux-headers-2.6.18-6 linux-headers-2.6.18-6-486 linux-image-2.6.18-6-486 linux-kbuild-2.6.18
> 0 upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and 37 not upgraded.
> Need to get 23.4MB of archives.
> After unpacking 83.3MB of additional disk space will be used.
> Running depmod.
> Finding valid ramdisk creators.
> Using mkinitramfs-kpkg to build the ramdisk.
> Running postinst hook script /sbin/update-grub.
> You shouldn't call /sbin/update-grub. Please call /usr/sbin/update-grub instead!
>
> Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
> Searching for default file ... found: /boot/grub/default
> Testing for an existing GRUB menu.lst file ... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst
> Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ...
> Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.21-1-multimedia-486
> Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-6-486
> Found kernel: /boot/memtest86.bin
> Found kernel: /boot/memtest86+.bin
> Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done
>
>
> Setting up linux-doc-2.6.18 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch5) ...
> Setting up linux-headers-2.6.18-6 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch5) ...
> Setting up linux-kbuild-2.6.18 (2.6.18-1) ...
> Setting up linux-headers-2.6.18-6-486 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch5) ...
>
> # ls -la /boot/
> total 18632
> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2008-05-29 12:07 .
> drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 2008-05-29 12:07 ..
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 71719 2008-05-24 10:42 config-2.6.18-6-486
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 79161 2007-06-22 20:39 config-2.6.21-1-multimedia-486
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2008-05-29 05:37 grub
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4695141 2008-05-29 12:07 initrd.img-2.6.18-6-486
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5095801 2008-05-29 05:32 initrd.img-2.6.21-1-multimedia-486
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4738482 2008-05-29 05:05 initrd.img-2.6.21-1-multimedia-486.bak
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 94356 2005-02-02 22:41 memtest86.bin
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 94760 2005-10-05 20:57 memtest86+.bin
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 717895 2008-05-24 15:58 System.map-2.6.18-6-486
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 803835 2007-06-22 20:39 System.map-2.6.21-1-multimedia-486
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1219112 2008-05-24 15:58 vmlinuz-2.6.18-6-486
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1358872 2007-06-22 20:39 vmlinuz-2.6.21-1-multimedia-486
>
> $ uname -r
> 2.6.18-6-486
> $
> Sorry Ralf, posted to wrong list.
>
> Good luck,
>
> dave.
>
>
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> because of problems with the proprietary ATI driver and DVD-RAM I tried
>> to install a second Kernel.
>>
>> Could anybody please be so kind and try to install a second kernel?
>>
>> Something seems to be wrong for my 64 Studio.
>>
>> Synaptic e.g. gives messages like this:
>>
>> Selecting previously deselected package kernel-image-2.6-amd64-generic.
>> (Reading database ... 174559 files and directories currently installed.)
>> Unpacking kernel-image-2.6-amd64-generic (from
>> .../kernel-image-2.6-amd64-generic_1%3a2.6.18+6etch3_amd64.deb) ...
>> Setting up kernel-image-2.6-amd64-generic (2.6.18+6etch3) ...
>>
>> And this:
>>
>> Selecting previously deselected package kernel-image-2.6-amd64-k8-smp.
>> (Reading database ... 174559 files and directories currently installed.)
>> Unpacking kernel-image-2.6-amd64-k8-smp (from
>> .../kernel-image-2.6-amd64-k8-smp_1%3a2.6.18+6etch3_amd64.deb) ...
>> Setting up kernel-image-2.6-amd64-k8-smp (2.6.18+6etch3) ...
>>
>> But there is no second Kernel:
>>
>> spinymouse@64studio:/boot$ ls
>> config-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64
>> initrd.img-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64.bak
>> System.map-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64
>> grub
>> memtest86.bin vmlinuz-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64
>> initrd.img-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64 memtest86+.bin
>> spinymouse@64studio:/boot$
>>
>> The translation of the word "transition" is ambivalent. If it should
>> mean "transformation", than I don't know which kernel has to be
>> installed to be "transformed".
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ralf

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Old 05-29-2008, 04:02 PM
Gustin Johnson
 
Default Modest request to everyone using 2.1rc with latest upgrades

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Ralf Mardorf wrote:
| Hi Dave
|
| no this isn't a help. There seems to be a problem with the 64bit
| version, resp. something I do misunderstand.

No there is not. You are not selecting a specific kernel.
The kernel-image-2.6-amd64-generic is already installed. This is
basically a pointer to the latest generic 2.6 kernel. You need to
install a specific kernel, such as: linux-image-2.6.18-6-486

My girlfriend has a similar computer to, I may be able to play around
with it, but not until the weekend.

| The alsa drivers listed by lsmod shouldn't be a problem.
|
| Thank you for your effort.
|
| I'm worried that I've to change back to Suse. Does anybody use an
| ASUS M2A-VM HDMI and or a AMD Athlon X2 BE-2350?
|
| Cheers, Ralf
|
| dave wrote:
|> Hi Ralf, :-)
|>
|> I am going to kill this test install today, you might have to
|> consider alsa, etc,. hope this helps.
|>
|> $ su Password: # apt-get update # apt-cache search 2.6.18-6-486
|>
|> # apt-get install linux-image-2.6.18-6-486
|> linux-headers-2.6.18-6-486 linux-headers-2.6.18-6
|> linux-kbuild-2.6.18 linux-doc-2.6.18 The following NEW packages
|> will be installed linux-doc-2.6.18 linux-headers-2.6.18-6
|> linux-headers-2.6.18-6-486 linux-image-2.6.18-6-486
|> linux-kbuild-2.6.18 0 upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and
|> 37 not upgraded. Need to get 23.4MB of archives. After unpacking
|> 83.3MB of additional disk space will be used. Running depmod.
|> Finding valid ramdisk creators. Using mkinitramfs-kpkg to build the
|> ramdisk. Running postinst hook script /sbin/update-grub. You
|> shouldn't call /sbin/update-grub. Please call /usr/sbin/update-grub
|> instead!
|>
|> Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
|> Searching for default file ... found: /boot/grub/default Testing
|> for an existing GRUB menu.lst file ... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst
|> Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ... Found
|> kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.21-1-multimedia-486 Found kernel:
|> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-6-486 Found kernel: /boot/memtest86.bin Found
|> kernel: /boot/memtest86+.bin Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done
|>
|>
|> Setting up linux-doc-2.6.18 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch5) ... Setting up
|> linux-headers-2.6.18-6 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch5) ... Setting up
|> linux-kbuild-2.6.18 (2.6.18-1) ... Setting up
|> linux-headers-2.6.18-6-486 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch5) ...
|>
|> # ls -la /boot/ total 18632 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096
|> 2008-05-29 12:07 . drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 2008-05-29 12:07
|> .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 71719 2008-05-24 10:42
|> config-2.6.18-6-486 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 79161 2007-06-22
|> 20:39 config-2.6.21-1-multimedia-486 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root
|> 4096 2008-05-29 05:37 grub -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4695141
|> 2008-05-29 12:07 initrd.img-2.6.18-6-486 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root
|> 5095801 2008-05-29 05:32 initrd.img-2.6.21-1-multimedia-486
|> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4738482 2008-05-29 05:05
|> initrd.img-2.6.21-1-multimedia-486.bak -rw-r--r-- 1 root root
|> 94356 2005-02-02 22:41 memtest86.bin -rw-r--r-- 1 root root
|> 94760 2005-10-05 20:57 memtest86+.bin -rw-r--r-- 1 root root
|> 717895 2008-05-24 15:58 System.map-2.6.18-6-486 -rw-r--r-- 1 root
|> root 803835 2007-06-22 20:39 System.map-2.6.21-1-multimedia-486
|> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1219112 2008-05-24 15:58
|> vmlinuz-2.6.18-6-486 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1358872 2007-06-22
|> 20:39 vmlinuz-2.6.21-1-multimedia-486
|>
|> $ uname -r 2.6.18-6-486 $ Sorry Ralf, posted to wrong list.
|>
|> Good luck,
|>
|> dave.
|>
|>
|> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
|>
|>> Hi all
|>>
|>> because of problems with the proprietary ATI driver and DVD-RAM I
|>> tried to install a second Kernel.
|>>
|>> Could anybody please be so kind and try to install a second
|>> kernel?
|>>
|>> Something seems to be wrong for my 64 Studio.
|>>
|>> Synaptic e.g. gives messages like this:
|>>
|>> Selecting previously deselected package
|>> kernel-image-2.6-amd64-generic. (Reading database ... 174559
|>> files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking
|>> kernel-image-2.6-amd64-generic (from
|>> .../kernel-image-2.6-amd64-generic_1%3a2.6.18+6etch3_amd64.deb)
|>> ... Setting up kernel-image-2.6-amd64-generic (2.6.18+6etch3) ...
|>>
|>>
|>> And this:
|>>
|>> Selecting previously deselected package
|>> kernel-image-2.6-amd64-k8-smp. (Reading database ... 174559 files
|>> and directories currently installed.) Unpacking
|>> kernel-image-2.6-amd64-k8-smp (from
|>> .../kernel-image-2.6-amd64-k8-smp_1%3a2.6.18+6etch3_amd64.deb)
|>> ... Setting up kernel-image-2.6-amd64-k8-smp (2.6.18+6etch3) ...
|>>
|>> But there is no second Kernel:
|>>
|>> spinymouse@64studio:/boot$ ls config-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64
|>> initrd.img-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64.bak
|>> System.map-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64 grub
|>> memtest86.bin
|>> vmlinuz-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64
|>> initrd.img-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64 memtest86+.bin
|>> spinymouse@64studio:/boot$
|>>
|>> The translation of the word "transition" is ambivalent. If it
|>> should mean "transformation", than I don't know which kernel has
|>> to be installed to be "transformed".
|>>
|>> Cheers, Ralf
|
|
| ------------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|
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| http://lists.64studio.com/mailman/listinfo/64studio-users
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Old 05-29-2008, 04:20 PM
Ralf Mardorf
 
Default Modest request to everyone using 2.1rc with latest upgrades

Hi Gustin

Gustin Johnson wrote:
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> | Hi Dave
> |
> | no this isn't a help. There seems to be a problem with the 64bit
> | version, resp. something I do misunderstand.
>
> No there is not. You are not selecting a specific kernel.
> The kernel-image-2.6-amd64-generic is already installed. This is
> basically a pointer to the latest generic 2.6 kernel. You need to
> install a specific kernel, such as: linux-image-2.6.18-6-486
>
> My girlfriend has a similar computer to, I may be able to play around
> with it, but not until the weekend.

Ok, that means that I have to download and install a 32bit kernel?! And
than to install a "transition" image?!

The translation of "transition" into German means:

1. temporarily (we will change the kernel next week)
2. transform (you need another kernel and this image will manipulate
that other kernel)

Even if there will be the need for me to change to Suse, I'll try 64
Studio again and again and I also won't leave the list.

I'm short in time today, I try to download and install a 32bit kernel
later or tomorrow.

Thank you .

Cheers,
Ralf

PS: The next problem will be the installation of the ATI driver with a
32bit plus 64bit "transition" source :S.
Am I overlooking a non-realtime 64bit-kernel and the sources? I can't
find one in the repositories.

> | The alsa drivers listed by lsmod shouldn't be a problem.
> |
> | Thank you for your effort.
> |
> | I'm worried that I've to change back to Suse. Does anybody use an
> | ASUS M2A-VM HDMI and or a AMD Athlon X2 BE-2350?
> |
> | Cheers, Ralf
> |
> | dave wrote:
> |> Hi Ralf, :-)
> |>
> |> I am going to kill this test install today, you might have to
> |> consider alsa, etc,. hope this helps.
> |>
> |> $ su Password: # apt-get update # apt-cache search 2.6.18-6-486
> |>
> |> # apt-get install linux-image-2.6.18-6-486
> |> linux-headers-2.6.18-6-486 linux-headers-2.6.18-6
> |> linux-kbuild-2.6.18 linux-doc-2.6.18 The following NEW packages
> |> will be installed linux-doc-2.6.18 linux-headers-2.6.18-6
> |> linux-headers-2.6.18-6-486 linux-image-2.6.18-6-486
> |> linux-kbuild-2.6.18 0 upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and
> |> 37 not upgraded. Need to get 23.4MB of archives. After unpacking
> |> 83.3MB of additional disk space will be used. Running depmod.
> |> Finding valid ramdisk creators. Using mkinitramfs-kpkg to build the
> |> ramdisk. Running postinst hook script /sbin/update-grub. You
> |> shouldn't call /sbin/update-grub. Please call /usr/sbin/update-grub
> |> instead!
> |>
> |> Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
> |> Searching for default file ... found: /boot/grub/default Testing
> |> for an existing GRUB menu.lst file ... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst
> |> Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ... Found
> |> kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.21-1-multimedia-486 Found kernel:
> |> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-6-486 Found kernel: /boot/memtest86.bin Found
> |> kernel: /boot/memtest86+.bin Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done
> |>
> |>
> |> Setting up linux-doc-2.6.18 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch5) ... Setting up
> |> linux-headers-2.6.18-6 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch5) ... Setting up
> |> linux-kbuild-2.6.18 (2.6.18-1) ... Setting up
> |> linux-headers-2.6.18-6-486 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch5) ...
> |>
> |> # ls -la /boot/ total 18632 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096
> |> 2008-05-29 12:07 . drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 2008-05-29 12:07
> |> .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 71719 2008-05-24 10:42
> |> config-2.6.18-6-486 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 79161 2007-06-22
> |> 20:39 config-2.6.21-1-multimedia-486 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root
> |> 4096 2008-05-29 05:37 grub -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4695141
> |> 2008-05-29 12:07 initrd.img-2.6.18-6-486 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root
> |> 5095801 2008-05-29 05:32 initrd.img-2.6.21-1-multimedia-486
> |> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4738482 2008-05-29 05:05
> |> initrd.img-2.6.21-1-multimedia-486.bak -rw-r--r-- 1 root root
> |> 94356 2005-02-02 22:41 memtest86.bin -rw-r--r-- 1 root root
> |> 94760 2005-10-05 20:57 memtest86+.bin -rw-r--r-- 1 root root
> |> 717895 2008-05-24 15:58 System.map-2.6.18-6-486 -rw-r--r-- 1 root
> |> root 803835 2007-06-22 20:39 System.map-2.6.21-1-multimedia-486
> |> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1219112 2008-05-24 15:58
> |> vmlinuz-2.6.18-6-486 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1358872 2007-06-22
> |> 20:39 vmlinuz-2.6.21-1-multimedia-486
> |>
> |> $ uname -r 2.6.18-6-486 $ Sorry Ralf, posted to wrong list.
> |>
> |> Good luck,
> |>
> |> dave.
> |>
> |>
> |> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> |>
> |>> Hi all
> |>>
> |>> because of problems with the proprietary ATI driver and DVD-RAM I
> |>> tried to install a second Kernel.
> |>>
> |>> Could anybody please be so kind and try to install a second
> |>> kernel?
> |>>
> |>> Something seems to be wrong for my 64 Studio.
> |>>
> |>> Synaptic e.g. gives messages like this:
> |>>
> |>> Selecting previously deselected package
> |>> kernel-image-2.6-amd64-generic. (Reading database ... 174559
> |>> files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking
> |>> kernel-image-2.6-amd64-generic (from
> |>> .../kernel-image-2.6-amd64-generic_1%3a2.6.18+6etch3_amd64.deb)
> |>> ... Setting up kernel-image-2.6-amd64-generic (2.6.18+6etch3) ...
> |>>
> |>>
> |>> And this:
> |>>
> |>> Selecting previously deselected package
> |>> kernel-image-2.6-amd64-k8-smp. (Reading database ... 174559 files
> |>> and directories currently installed.) Unpacking
> |>> kernel-image-2.6-amd64-k8-smp (from
> |>> .../kernel-image-2.6-amd64-k8-smp_1%3a2.6.18+6etch3_amd64.deb)
> |>> ... Setting up kernel-image-2.6-amd64-k8-smp (2.6.18+6etch3) ...
> |>>
> |>> But there is no second Kernel:
> |>>
> |>> spinymouse@64studio:/boot$ ls config-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64
> |>> initrd.img-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64.bak
> |>> System.map-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64 grub
> |>> memtest86.bin
> |>> vmlinuz-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64
> |>> initrd.img-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64 memtest86+.bin
> |>> spinymouse@64studio:/boot$
> |>>
> |>> The translation of the word "transition" is ambivalent. If it
> |>> should mean "transformation", than I don't know which kernel has
> |>> to be installed to be "transformed".
> |>>
> |>> Cheers, Ralf
> |
> |
> | ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> |
> |
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> | http://lists.64studio.com/mailman/listinfo/64studio-users


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Old 05-29-2008, 05:01 PM
Gustin Johnson
 
Default Modest request to everyone using 2.1rc with latest upgrades

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Ralf Mardorf wrote:
| Hi Gustin
|
| Gustin Johnson wrote:
|> Ralf Mardorf wrote: | Hi Dave | | no this isn't a help. There
|> seems to be a problem with the 64bit | version, resp. something I
|> do misunderstand.
|>
|> No there is not. You are not selecting a specific kernel. The
|> kernel-image-2.6-amd64-generic is already installed. This is
|> basically a pointer to the latest generic 2.6 kernel. You need to
|> install a specific kernel, such as: linux-image-2.6.18-6-486
|>
|> My girlfriend has a similar computer to, I may be able to play
|> around with it, but not until the weekend.
|
| Ok, that means that I have to download and install a 32bit kernel?!
| And than to install a "transition" image?!

No, I was just using that one as an example. To see what kernels are
available:

aptitude search kernel-image

I am not sure how many choices you get with the stock 64studio sources,
but there are quite a few to choose from in etch.

| The translation of "transition" into German means:
|
| 1. temporarily (we will change the kernel next week) 2. transform
| (you need another kernel and this image will manipulate that other
| kernel)

The meaning is a bit more subtle than that. Similarly, instead of
ambivalent, I believe ambiguous would have been a better choice.

| Even if there will be the need for me to change to Suse, I'll try 64
| Studio again and again and I also won't leave the list.

Personally, I still use KUbuntu for day to day stuff, with 64 Studio on
a dedicated DAW.

| I'm short in time today, I try to download and install a 32bit kernel
| later or tomorrow.

I can't get to this before the weekend anyway.

| PS: The next problem will be the installation of the ATI driver with
| a 32bit plus 64bit "transition" source :S. Am I overlooking a
| non-realtime 64bit-kernel and the sources? I can't find one in the
| repositories.

Daniel et al. What is the latest kernel version we can use with the 64
Studio version of xorg?
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Old 05-29-2008, 05:18 PM
dave
 
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Hi Ralf,

# apt-get update
# apt-cache search linux-image

linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64

is one option, there are others.

# apt-cache search 2.6.18-6-amd64

will list relative options for this kernel.

or use

# aptitude search kernel-image


as Gustin suggests.

Cheers,

dave.

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> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> | Hi Gustin
> |
> | Gustin Johnson wrote:
> |> Ralf Mardorf wrote: | Hi Dave | | no this isn't a help. There
> |> seems to be a problem with the 64bit | version, resp. something I
> |> do misunderstand.
> |>
> |> No there is not. You are not selecting a specific kernel. The
> |> kernel-image-2.6-amd64-generic is already installed. This is
> |> basically a pointer to the latest generic 2.6 kernel. You need to
> |> install a specific kernel, such as: linux-image-2.6.18-6-486
> |>
> |> My girlfriend has a similar computer to, I may be able to play
> |> around with it, but not until the weekend.
> |
> | Ok, that means that I have to download and install a 32bit kernel?!
> | And than to install a "transition" image?!
>
> No, I was just using that one as an example. To see what kernels are
> available:
>
> aptitude search kernel-image
>
> I am not sure how many choices you get with the stock 64studio sources,
> but there are quite a few to choose from in etch.
>
> | The translation of "transition" into German means:
> |
> | 1. temporarily (we will change the kernel next week) 2. transform
> | (you need another kernel and this image will manipulate that other
> | kernel)
>
> The meaning is a bit more subtle than that. Similarly, instead of
> ambivalent, I believe ambiguous would have been a better choice.
>
> | Even if there will be the need for me to change to Suse, I'll try 64
> | Studio again and again and I also won't leave the list.
>
> Personally, I still use KUbuntu for day to day stuff, with 64 Studio on
> a dedicated DAW.
>
> | I'm short in time today, I try to download and install a 32bit kernel
> | later or tomorrow.
>
> I can't get to this before the weekend anyway.
>
> | PS: The next problem will be the installation of the ATI driver with
> | a 32bit plus 64bit "transition" source :S. Am I overlooking a
> | non-realtime 64bit-kernel and the sources? I can't find one in the
> | repositories.
>
> Daniel et al. What is the latest kernel version we can use with the 64
> Studio version of xorg?
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Old 05-29-2008, 05:19 PM
Ralf Mardorf
 
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Gustin Johnson wrote:
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> | Hi Gustin
> |
> | Gustin Johnson wrote:
> |> Ralf Mardorf wrote: | Hi Dave | | no this isn't a help. There
> |> seems to be a problem with the 64bit | version, resp. something I
> |> do misunderstand.
> |>
> |> No there is not. You are not selecting a specific kernel. The
> |> kernel-image-2.6-amd64-generic is already installed. This is
> |> basically a pointer to the latest generic 2.6 kernel. You need to
> |> install a specific kernel, such as: linux-image-2.6.18-6-486
> |>
> |> My girlfriend has a similar computer to, I may be able to play
> |> around with it, but not until the weekend.
> |
> | Ok, that means that I have to download and install a 32bit kernel?!
> | And than to install a "transition" image?!
>
> No, I was just using that one as an example. To see what kernels are
> available:
>
> aptitude search kernel-image

64studio:/home/spinymouse# aptitude search kernel-image
p kernel-image-2.6-amd64-generic - Linux
kernel image for version 2.6 on generic x86_64 systems - t
p kernel-image-2.6-amd64-k8 - Linux
kernel image for version 2.6 on AMD64 systems - transition
p kernel-image-2.6-amd64-k8-smp - Linux
kernel image for version 2.6 on AMD64 SMP systems - transi
p kernel-image-2.6-em64t-p4 - Linux
kernel image for version 2.6 on Intel EM64T systems - tran
p kernel-image-2.6-em64t-p4-smp - Linux
kernel image for version 2.6 on Intel EM64T SMP systems -
64studio:/home/spinymouse#

The same with Synaptic and I enabled the "standard" Debian Etch
repositories there.

There seems to be no kernel!

64studio:/home/spinymouse# uname -r
2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64
64studio:/home/spinymouse#

> I am not sure how many choices you get with the stock 64studio sources,
> but there are quite a few to choose from in etch.

I won't try all of that repositories :

http://www.apt-get.org/main/

I forgo about:

http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDVD-RAM+Tools?content=45888

because of Debian Etch's oldish KDE.

TorK

because of Debian Debian Etch's oldish libs.

Just to hold 64 Studio stable.

> | The translation of "transition" into German means:
> |
> | 1. temporarily (we will change the kernel next week) 2. transform
> | (you need another kernel and this image will manipulate that other
> | kernel)
>
> The meaning is a bit more subtle than that. Similarly, instead of
> ambivalent, I believe ambiguous would have been a better choice.

That's fine for my broken English.

> | Even if there will be the need for me to change to Suse, I'll try 64
> | Studio again and again and I also won't leave the list.
>
> Personally, I still use KUbuntu for day to day stuff, with 64 Studio on
> a dedicated DAW.

That is not the end of the world, is it? I'm thinking of the latest
32bit Suse and as DAW for the latest 64bit 64 Studio. It would be fine
if it will be possible to use 64 Studio for all needs.

> | I'm short in time today, I try to download and install a 32bit kernel
> | later or tomorrow.
>
> I can't get to this before the weekend anyway.
>
> | PS: The next problem will be the installation of the ATI driver with
> | a 32bit plus 64bit "transition" source :S. Am I overlooking a
> | non-realtime 64bit-kernel and the sources? I can't find one in the
> | repositories.
>
> Daniel et al. What is the latest kernel version we can use with the 64
> Studio version of xorg?

Thank you a very smart question. Perhaps this would have been the
next mousetrap for "Spinymouse".

Cheers,
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Old 05-29-2008, 05:28 PM
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dave wrote:
> Hi Ralf,
>
> # apt-get update
> # apt-cache search linux-image
>
> linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64
>
> is one option, there are others.
>
> # apt-cache search 2.6.18-6-amd64
>
> will list relative options for this kernel.
>
> or use
>
> # aptitude search kernel-image
>
>
> as Gustin suggests.
>
> Cheers,
>
> dave.

Thank you Dave , I'll go through this over the weekend:

64studio:/home/spinymouse# apt-cache search linux-image
linux-image-2.6-amd64 - Linux kernel 2.6 image on amd64-class machines
linux-image-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64 - Linux 2.6.21 image on amd64-class
linux-headers-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.21
on amd64-class
linux-image-2.6-amd64-generic - Linux 2.6 image on all x86-64 -
transition package
linux-image-2.6-amd64-k8 - Linux 2.6 image on AMD64 K8 machines -
transition package
linux-image-2.6-amd64-k8-smp - Linux 2.6 image on AMD64 K8 SMP machines
- transition package
linux-image-2.6-em64t-p4 - Linux 2.6 image on Intel em64t P4 machines -
transition package
linux-image-2.6-em64t-p4-smp - Linux 2.6 image on Intel em64t P4/Xeon
SMP - transition package
linux-image-2.6-vserver-amd64 - Linux kernel 2.6 image on AMD64
linux-image-2.6-vserver-amd64-k8-smp - Linux 2.6 image on AMD64 K8 SMP
machines - transition package
linux-image-2.6-vserver-em64t-p4-smp - Linux 2.6 image on Intel em64t
P4/Xeon SMP - transition package
linux-image-2.6-xen-amd64 - Linux kernel 2.6 image on AMD64
linux-image-2.6-xen-vserver-amd64 - Linux kernel 2.6 image on AMD64
linux-image-amd64 - Linux kernel image on AMD64
linux-image-vserver-amd64 - Linux kernel image on AMD64
linux-image-xen-amd64 - Linux kernel image on AMD64
linux-image-xen-vserver-amd64 - Linux kernel image on AMD64
linux-headers-2.6.18-4-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on AMD64
linux-headers-2.6.18-4-vserver-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on
AMD64
linux-headers-2.6.18-4-xen-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on AMD64
linux-headers-2.6.18-4-xen-vserver-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18
on AMD64
linux-headers-2.6.18-5-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on AMD64
linux-headers-2.6.18-5-vserver-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on
AMD64
linux-headers-2.6.18-5-xen-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on AMD64
linux-headers-2.6.18-5-xen-vserver-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18
on AMD64
linux-headers-2.6.18-6-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on AMD64
linux-headers-2.6.18-6-vserver-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on
AMD64
linux-headers-2.6.18-6-xen-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on AMD64
linux-headers-2.6.18-6-xen-vserver-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18
on AMD64
linux-image-2.6.18-4-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
linux-image-2.6.18-4-vserver-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
linux-image-2.6.18-4-xen-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
linux-image-2.6.18-4-xen-vserver-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
linux-image-2.6.18-5-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
linux-image-2.6.18-5-vserver-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
linux-image-2.6.18-5-xen-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
linux-image-2.6.18-5-xen-vserver-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
linux-image-2.6.18-6-vserver-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
linux-image-2.6.18-6-xen-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
linux-image-2.6.18-6-xen-vserver-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
linux-tree-2.6.18 - Linux kernel source tree for building Debian kernel
images
alsa-base - ALSA driver configuration files
64studio:/home/spinymouse#

Synaptic also found some NVidia-kernels that are not relevant for me.

Cheers,
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Old 05-29-2008, 05:37 PM
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Hi Ralf,

We all posted at the same time.
You should have got the same result
with Gustin's search?
All I can think is you didn't have the 64studio
repositories enabled..

Cheers,

dave.

Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> dave wrote:
>
>> Hi Ralf,
>>
>> # apt-get update
>> # apt-cache search linux-image
>>
>> linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64
>>
>> is one option, there are others.
>>
>> # apt-cache search 2.6.18-6-amd64
>>
>> will list relative options for this kernel.
>>
>> or use
>>
>> # aptitude search kernel-image
>>
>>
>> as Gustin suggests.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> dave.
>>
>
> Thank you Dave , I'll go through this over the weekend:
>
> 64studio:/home/spinymouse# apt-cache search linux-image
> linux-image-2.6-amd64 - Linux kernel 2.6 image on amd64-class machines
> linux-image-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64 - Linux 2.6.21 image on amd64-class
> linux-headers-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.21
> on amd64-class
> linux-image-2.6-amd64-generic - Linux 2.6 image on all x86-64 -
> transition package
> linux-image-2.6-amd64-k8 - Linux 2.6 image on AMD64 K8 machines -
> transition package
> linux-image-2.6-amd64-k8-smp - Linux 2.6 image on AMD64 K8 SMP machines
> - transition package
> linux-image-2.6-em64t-p4 - Linux 2.6 image on Intel em64t P4 machines -
> transition package
> linux-image-2.6-em64t-p4-smp - Linux 2.6 image on Intel em64t P4/Xeon
> SMP - transition package
> linux-image-2.6-vserver-amd64 - Linux kernel 2.6 image on AMD64
> linux-image-2.6-vserver-amd64-k8-smp - Linux 2.6 image on AMD64 K8 SMP
> machines - transition package
> linux-image-2.6-vserver-em64t-p4-smp - Linux 2.6 image on Intel em64t
> P4/Xeon SMP - transition package
> linux-image-2.6-xen-amd64 - Linux kernel 2.6 image on AMD64
> linux-image-2.6-xen-vserver-amd64 - Linux kernel 2.6 image on AMD64
> linux-image-amd64 - Linux kernel image on AMD64
> linux-image-vserver-amd64 - Linux kernel image on AMD64
> linux-image-xen-amd64 - Linux kernel image on AMD64
> linux-image-xen-vserver-amd64 - Linux kernel image on AMD64
> linux-headers-2.6.18-4-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on AMD64
> linux-headers-2.6.18-4-vserver-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on
> AMD64
> linux-headers-2.6.18-4-xen-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on AMD64
> linux-headers-2.6.18-4-xen-vserver-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18
> on AMD64
> linux-headers-2.6.18-5-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on AMD64
> linux-headers-2.6.18-5-vserver-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on
> AMD64
> linux-headers-2.6.18-5-xen-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on AMD64
> linux-headers-2.6.18-5-xen-vserver-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18
> on AMD64
> linux-headers-2.6.18-6-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on AMD64
> linux-headers-2.6.18-6-vserver-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on
> AMD64
> linux-headers-2.6.18-6-xen-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on AMD64
> linux-headers-2.6.18-6-xen-vserver-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18
> on AMD64
> linux-image-2.6.18-4-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
> linux-image-2.6.18-4-vserver-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
> linux-image-2.6.18-4-xen-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
> linux-image-2.6.18-4-xen-vserver-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
> linux-image-2.6.18-5-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
> linux-image-2.6.18-5-vserver-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
> linux-image-2.6.18-5-xen-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
> linux-image-2.6.18-5-xen-vserver-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
> linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
> linux-image-2.6.18-6-vserver-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
> linux-image-2.6.18-6-xen-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
> linux-image-2.6.18-6-xen-vserver-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
> linux-tree-2.6.18 - Linux kernel source tree for building Debian kernel
> images
> alsa-base - ALSA driver configuration files
> 64studio:/home/spinymouse#
>
> Synaptic also found some NVidia-kernels that are not relevant for me.
>
> Cheers,
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>
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Old 05-29-2008, 05:53 PM
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Hehe

I'm from Suse, this might be worse than to be from Windows.

I'm fine with Synaptic (and with smart and rpm for Suse, I don't like
YaST2 for packages). You might be right that I haven't enabled the
repositories for apt or dpkg, because I'm not familiar with this and I'm
a dyslexic and in addition to that a little bit lazy at the moment too,
in addition my English is broken.

BUT before I'll change to Windows I'll jump from a bridge.

I think there will be time in the next week, to learn how to use apt and
dpkg.

As an excuse ... Linux isn't very user friendly.

Cheers,
Ralf

dave wrote:
> Hi Ralf,
>
> We all posted at the same time.
> You should have got the same result
> with Gustin's search?
> All I can think is you didn't have the 64studio
> repositories enabled..
>
> Cheers,
>
> dave.
>
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
>> dave wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi Ralf,
>>>
>>> # apt-get update
>>> # apt-cache search linux-image
>>>
>>> linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64
>>>
>>> is one option, there are others.
>>>
>>> # apt-cache search 2.6.18-6-amd64
>>>
>>> will list relative options for this kernel.
>>>
>>> or use
>>>
>>> # aptitude search kernel-image
>>>
>>>
>>> as Gustin suggests.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> dave.
>>>
>>>
>> Thank you Dave , I'll go through this over the weekend:
>>
>> 64studio:/home/spinymouse# apt-cache search linux-image
>> linux-image-2.6-amd64 - Linux kernel 2.6 image on amd64-class machines
>> linux-image-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64 - Linux 2.6.21 image on amd64-class
>> linux-headers-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.21
>> on amd64-class
>> linux-image-2.6-amd64-generic - Linux 2.6 image on all x86-64 -
>> transition package
>> linux-image-2.6-amd64-k8 - Linux 2.6 image on AMD64 K8 machines -
>> transition package
>> linux-image-2.6-amd64-k8-smp - Linux 2.6 image on AMD64 K8 SMP machines
>> - transition package
>> linux-image-2.6-em64t-p4 - Linux 2.6 image on Intel em64t P4 machines -
>> transition package
>> linux-image-2.6-em64t-p4-smp - Linux 2.6 image on Intel em64t P4/Xeon
>> SMP - transition package
>> linux-image-2.6-vserver-amd64 - Linux kernel 2.6 image on AMD64
>> linux-image-2.6-vserver-amd64-k8-smp - Linux 2.6 image on AMD64 K8 SMP
>> machines - transition package
>> linux-image-2.6-vserver-em64t-p4-smp - Linux 2.6 image on Intel em64t
>> P4/Xeon SMP - transition package
>> linux-image-2.6-xen-amd64 - Linux kernel 2.6 image on AMD64
>> linux-image-2.6-xen-vserver-amd64 - Linux kernel 2.6 image on AMD64
>> linux-image-amd64 - Linux kernel image on AMD64
>> linux-image-vserver-amd64 - Linux kernel image on AMD64
>> linux-image-xen-amd64 - Linux kernel image on AMD64
>> linux-image-xen-vserver-amd64 - Linux kernel image on AMD64
>> linux-headers-2.6.18-4-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on AMD64
>> linux-headers-2.6.18-4-vserver-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on
>> AMD64
>> linux-headers-2.6.18-4-xen-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on AMD64
>> linux-headers-2.6.18-4-xen-vserver-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18
>> on AMD64
>> linux-headers-2.6.18-5-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on AMD64
>> linux-headers-2.6.18-5-vserver-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on
>> AMD64
>> linux-headers-2.6.18-5-xen-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on AMD64
>> linux-headers-2.6.18-5-xen-vserver-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18
>> on AMD64
>> linux-headers-2.6.18-6-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on AMD64
>> linux-headers-2.6.18-6-vserver-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on
>> AMD64
>> linux-headers-2.6.18-6-xen-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18 on AMD64
>> linux-headers-2.6.18-6-xen-vserver-amd64 - Header files for Linux 2.6.18
>> on AMD64
>> linux-image-2.6.18-4-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
>> linux-image-2.6.18-4-vserver-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
>> linux-image-2.6.18-4-xen-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
>> linux-image-2.6.18-4-xen-vserver-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
>> linux-image-2.6.18-5-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
>> linux-image-2.6.18-5-vserver-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
>> linux-image-2.6.18-5-xen-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
>> linux-image-2.6.18-5-xen-vserver-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
>> linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
>> linux-image-2.6.18-6-vserver-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
>> linux-image-2.6.18-6-xen-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
>> linux-image-2.6.18-6-xen-vserver-amd64 - Linux 2.6.18 image on AMD64
>> linux-tree-2.6.18 - Linux kernel source tree for building Debian kernel
>> images
>> alsa-base - ALSA driver configuration files
>> 64studio:/home/spinymouse#
>>
>> Synaptic also found some NVidia-kernels that are not relevant for me.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ralf
>>
>>
>>
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Old 05-31-2008, 07:41 PM
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Hi

thank you. I now have 2 kernels in /boot and will test the proprietary
ATI driver and DVD-RAM with a non-rt-kernel.

To install TorK to 64studio many packages from the testing Lenny are
needed, that means that among others 64studio, 64studio-themes and
ardour would be removed.

Is there a way to run 64studio with Lenny, resp. a KDE 3.5.9?

Cheers,
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