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| Most advertisings are just for the waste basket, but the circulation
| of cracks is the best promotion for proprietary software I can
| imagine. I don't want to explain the reason for this, instead of this
| I'll say something about the things making people not to use Linux.
You mean possible excuses people may use to justify *not* choosing to
| The computer should be a tool like a knife and a fork. Children have
| to learn how to eat with knife and fork, but they get this tools
| already made. Linux is something like an assembly kit. People say
| it's good this way, so everything might be possible, what's
| impossible with other operating systems. That isn't true! Users are
| fine with other operating systems. They've less problems to solve and
| the community is much friendlier than the Linux community is. Not all
| Linux communities are as kind as the people in this list, e.g. a
| quote from the Ardour users-list:
| "IMO the freeloaders who use ardour and don't contribute back to the
| community are ripping all the rest of us off who enable them to use
| the software."
| I don't receive any mails from the list any more, maybe they blocked
| me because of my critique, that wouldn't be the first time in my
| life. You can give critique in every computer community but not to
| the Linux community.
In the open source community, code generally rules. It is very easy to
use to words,
| The people from my local LUG do have such narrow views that I nearly
| was giving up Linux, e.g. I suggested my home town to use Linux
| instead of Windows and send them informations in the form of links.
| The LUG impended me a criminal procedure if I'll ever will give
| anyone a link to their homepage in the future.
| The best arguments against Linux are made by German forums. People
| ask for help and they get the answer that they should search the
| forum, because there still is the answer. How should anybody search
| for the answer, if he don't know what he has to search for?
To posit a view from the other side. As a longtime Linux user, I have
seen the same questions asked over and over again. Most of the time the
~ question has been asked and answered before. It can be very
frustrating to answer the same question 12 times when the answer is in
the same forum that the question was asked in.
What is really being asked is a little bit of personal responsibility.
| Someone knowing less about Linux DAWs then I do, recommended me to
| use JAD, because this should be the best distro for DAWs. A DAW that
| comes with e17 by default, a very nice but absolute unstable WM. The
| same person recommended a noob that simply needed a plug in for his
| Thunderbird and no codec, to install more than 50 packages with
| codecs. Probably the experts of 64studio won't know about over 50
In every aspect of life, someone has an opinion.
| I often asked questions about basics, as you know, e.g. how to get
| the DVDRAM work. Nobody using another OS has to think about this.
| With Linux you will find a lot of links with the same question but
| without an answers, because of all that double postings.
Actually they do. Most of the time the system comes with drivers
pre-loaded. If you do a format and reinstall, you will encounter the
fun of driver hunting. Better get good at google.
| If people like me are not fine with Linux, they have to read, that
| they should go back to their Windows. I know Windows because when I
| do jobs I get in contact with it and because I had some for my self,
| to tell the provider defect reports. Many German providers give bad
| services and they insist to get the Windows messages, they are not
| fine with information like "ping: unknown host" if a domain they've
| given you is invalid. I made tests with Cubase, because Linux didn't
| work with my old hardware, but I never used Windows for myself.
I use Linux every day, and I still have to read. Most ISPs consider
Linux to be unsupported. It is what it is, there is no point in going
on about it.
| So you might have problems, you never used Windows and people abuse
| you to go back to Windows, where you are not from.
| "The community" (I think there are communities that are not all the
| same) is in the clouds, most people just are interested in the
| computer end in itself, but not as a tool for users. Users are
| rightly not willing to study Linux as major subject.
Whether you realize it or not, you had to learn the Mac OS, Windows, or
Atari or <insert favourite computer OS here> to begin with. Linux is a
little different from what you were using before, so you will have to
learn. To expect anything else is unrealistic.
| Some do all the work with Linux and they are fine with it. Asking
| them if a printing company ever get problems with something they
| handed in, the answer always is, that they never have done this.
| There's a difference between people doing things just for them self
| and people who has to work together with other people.
Don't confuse the platform with the file format. I have submitted a
number of jobs to printing companies. I don't tell them about linux, I
ask what file formats they support. Postcript and now SVG are two
formats that I have had a great deal of success with.
In the audio world, I can share wavs, mp3s, flacs, and ogg files etc.
with users on other platforms as long as the file format is supported.
| Linux isn't state of the art, because of proprietary monopolies, but
| also because of the fact, that criticism is knocked down as nagging.
Linux is state of the art. You could even make the argument that at the
kernel level, no one else comes close to Linux.
Criticism without contribution is generally meaningless. If you see a
problem they expect you to fix it, not whine about it. Courtesy works
both ways in this case.
Also, it is easy to get annoyed at criticism that is not well founded.
I have to admit that seeing your comment "Linux isn't state of the art"
annoyed me. This may be language or cultural difference that I am
misinterpreting, or it could be that you do not know a lot about the
kernel itself. A general criticism like that appears to be more of an
insult than a criticism. It conveys no information that allows one to
even begin fixing the problem if indeed one exists. This annoys
programmers. They like to know about bugs so they can squash them, but
telling them "something bad happened somewhere" does nothing but annoy.
Don't worry about this, I am just trying to point out how your words may
| I've written to the Ardour user list: "Some people, me too, are using
| Linux because of political desire."
| I think a lot of people will use Linux, because they wish to be cool
| and therefore it's good if a lot of people are not fine with Linux.
I have never before thought of Linux as "cool". First time for everything.
| Also I've written:
| "Maybe there are some people out there that will help e.g. the poor
| without receiving anything from them and it might be possible that
| some of those people will use Linux without giving back the community
| anything, anyway this would be a cycle of giving and receiving."
| If people say that Linux is a present and criticism is improper, they
| have to accept that Linux isn't the only thing in the world and not
| everyone will pay for a present, but they don't accept this.
Courtesy works both ways. It is unfair to expect the FLOSS communities
to cater to and adapt to everyone else without some reciprocation.
| Would there be an alternative to Linux, I wouldn't use Linux any more
| because of all that trouble.
BSD is an alternative. As is Windows and Mac OS.
| I'm only using Linux, no other OS, because there isn't an
| alternative. I'm not able to use Windows or MacOS because of my
| ethical needs and also I want to be "free" in the choice of my DE,
| what is easier to do with Linux.
BSD is an alternative. Of course you will likely run into the same
| To make people use Linux I decided no longer to help them with
| problems of their Macs and Windows, but to help them with problems,
| if they will use Linux. Also I ask makers and dealers about the
| reasons why their hardware won't work with Linux.
| I'm very disappointed about ATI!
Likewise. ATI has been a major headache for me for 10 years now.
| The ASUS M2A-VM HDMI with a AMD-2350 CPU I have now, seems to be fine
| with Linux. My old AsRock K7VT2 with an Athlon Thunderbird 900MHz has
| made my Linux more unstable than the unstablest Windows I ever have
| seen, but the NVIDIA AGP-Card is much better than the new on-board.
| Hardware is a big problem. I can't send a fax with any card from the
| bulk garbage, comments like "next time buy another card" are invalid,
| because I often bought so-called Linux compatible hardware that isn't
| Linux compatible and also I haven't the money to do that.
This is sadly the way things are if you choose to be free. Most
hardware manufacturers do not go out of their way to support Linux. I
have cultivated a relationship with a local computer dealer that allows
me to return hardware without penalty. I would hope that such a dealer
exists near you as well. At the end of the day, it is buyer beware. We
need to do a lot of homework before buying hardware. I consider it the
cost of freedom.
Also, google is your friend when researching hardware purchases.
| Cheers, Ralf
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