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Albert Seminatore 10-28-2009 11:34 PM

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I have some questions regarding the following procedures that Kevin was so kind to provide.* I will bury the questions within the text of his message so they make more sense.
>>>>>>>>
Message: 7
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:42:55 +0100
From: Kevin Donnelly <kevin@dotmon.com>
Subject: Re: [64studio-users] Avidemux editing* NOW WHAT?
To: 64 Studio users mailing list <64studio-users@lists.64studio.com>
Message-ID: <200910271742.55801.kevin@dotmon.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;* charset="utf-8"

Hi Albert

>>>>>
snip

Click "Add a video to your project" (column on the right-hand side), and
select the mpg file you rendered from Avidemux.*
>>>>>
IF I just "SAVE FILE" from Avidemux the file extension is not saved.* For example an ".AVI" file is saved by name only.* Same for an .mpeg file which I might mention is saved as "program" when files are listed in "detail".*
* This causes a problem with Mandvd in that it can't find the files.* So I had to go back and add the extension to get Mandvd to recognize them.*
** Note Mandvd will also take in ".avi" files.

>>>>>>>>
snip

type into the terminal:
sudo mount -o loop
-t iso9660 dvdiso.iso testvid
and enter your root password.

If you go to the testvid folder, you should now see two folders, audio_ts and
video_ts, with a band at the top saying "These files are on a Video DVD", and
a button saying "Open Movie Player".* Click that, and Totem should open and
play your DVD.* It should show the menu first, and when you click on your
menu text it should play the DVD.
>>>>>>>>>
When I played the dvd there was no sound.* The audio_ts file had a size of 0.* the gibvideo0.mpg file played perfect including video.* The ".mpg" file from Avidemux also played fine.* I tried this with the ".avi" file and got the same results.

I looked around a bit but couldn't find any obvious settings that I think would make a difference.* So who stole my audio?????

>>>>>>>>>>>
To unmount the dvd iso, type
into the terminal:
sudo umount testvid
>>>>>>>>>>>
* This doesn't work in Ubuntu 9.10.* I get* a Command not found error.* When I do a man unmount I get an error.* BUT I can highlight the file name and press the right button.* Then a drop down menu comes with an UNMOUNT command.* Problem is I don't have ownership of the file -- it belongs to root.* I have no way of knowing how to become root and unmount testvid.
* My solution was to reboot the system.* Then go highlight "testvid" and delete it.
* If I try to delete before a reboot I get an error that says it isn't in the /etc/fstab file.*
* Is this a Linux test question?????
* So now what can one do?

>>>>>>
Report on how you get on with the above first.

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Kevin Donnelly

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>>>>>>

One final question based on my dangerous reading habits.
* Is there a way of changing a ".vro" file to ".mpg"?* If this could be done then the Avidemux output could be used in "Kendlive" program which doesn't appear, based on tutorials, to be very difficult to use.* The output from Kendlive could then be used to burn a CD or DVD I think!
*** I tried using ffmpg but couldn't figure it out.* I got it installed but then got lost with the command line.* So I tried to install a GUI and that became an even worse task.* I had hoped that Synaptic would be able to do the job for me but it left me out to dry.

* Oh one last comment.* I finally have the sound turned on when I boot up.* I was watching a you tube video of installing
Ubuntu.* Some where in the probing around it got turned on for all time.* So that problem is gone for now.

** And Johnathan -- I am still reading your prose.* They a breath of fresh air compared to the normal corporate writings I have become used to.
.....................................*** Al
Aspice Morgans*
Albert Seminatore*
Roswell, NM*
E-Mail:*** alsemus@yahoo.com*
WebSite:** http://www.aspicemorgans.com*
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Ralf Mardorf 10-29-2009 01:03 AM

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Albert Seminatore wrote:
>
> To unmount the dvd iso, type into the terminal:
> sudo umount testvid
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> This doesn't work in Ubuntu 9.10. I get a Command not found
> error. When I do a man unmount I get an error. BUT I can highlight
> the file name and press the right button. Then a drop down menu comes
> with an UNMOUNT command. Problem is I don't have ownership of the
> file -- it belongs to root. I have no way of knowing how to become
> root and unmount testvid.
>

Did you try to unmount by your file browser?

Unmount by a terminal!

The command "sudo <command>" used for Ubuntu makes you "root" for the
<command>.
You also can type "sudo -i" to become root until "exit" or "logout"
(resp. for the terminal use the shortcut Ctrl + D).

E.g.:

sudo -i
umount testvid
exit

> My solution was to reboot the system. Then go highlight "testvid"
> and delete it.
> If I try to delete before a reboot I get an error that says it isn't
> in the /etc/fstab file.
> Is this a Linux test question?????
> So now what can one do?
>

Right, you mounted the ISO manually, it wasn't mounted by fstab. Perhaps
you wasn't able to unmount, because the ISO still was in use, e.g. a
media player was in stop modus, thus the file were not played any more,
but still in use of the media player.

If you want to use the unmount command
- make sure that no application is taking access to the device you want
to unmount, even a terminal changed to the directory that should be
unmounted will ban an unmount.
- be sure to be root ;), in a terminal use

sudo unmount [...]

or use

sudo -i
unmount [...]

>
> Is there a way of changing a ".vro" file to ".mpg"?
>

It's written that .vro files are .mpg files, thus you only need to
rename the files by using the rename option of the file browser or the
move command for the terminal emulation:

mv /path/to/input_testfile.vro /path/to/output_testfile.mpg

spinymouse-sudo@64studio:~$ ls Desktop
my_video.vro
spinymouse-sudo@64studio:~$ mv ~/Desktop/my_video.vro ~/Desktop/my_video.mpg
spinymouse-sudo@64studio:~$ ls Desktop
my_video.mpg

>
> I tried using ffmpg but couldn't figure it out. I got it
> installed but then got lost with the command line. So I tried to
> install a GUI and that became an even worse task.
>

What GUI did you try and what problems occurred?
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Ralf Mardorf 10-29-2009 01:09 AM

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Oops, dyslexia ;).

>> This doesn't work in Ubuntu 9.10. I get a Command not found
>> error. When I do a man unmount I get an error. BUT I can highlight
>> the file name and press the right button. Then a drop down menu comes
>> with an UNMOUNT command. Problem is I don't have ownership of the
>> file -- it belongs to root. I have no way of knowing how to become
>> root and unmount testvid.
>>

The command is

umount

it isn't

unmount

;), take care not to write the "n".
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Ralf Mardorf 10-29-2009 01:52 AM

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*Terminal emulation*

Push the tab-key (sometimes, when using the terminal emulation after
using another application, you need to do it 2 times), then "y" to
display all shell commands. Push "return" to see more. Quit with "q" or
"Ctrl + C". Some terminal emulations will show one command each time you
push the tab-key.

Push the arrow-up-key and arrow-down-key to scroll through the commands
you used before and if wanted use one of the commands again.


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Ralf Mardorf 10-29-2009 04:42 PM

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> *Terminal emulation*
>
> Push the tab-key (sometimes, when using the terminal emulation after
> using another application, you need to do it 2 times), then "y" to
> display all shell commands. Push "return" to see more. Quit with "q"
> or "Ctrl + C". Some terminal emulations will show one command each
> time you push the tab-key.
>
> Push the arrow-up-key and arrow-down-key to scroll through the
> commands you used before and if wanted use one of the commands again.

Hi Albert :)

there's one thing I've forgotten to write. Type a "letter" and then
press the tab-key to get all commands starting with this letter. Btw.
Suse does know umount and unmount, I guess they added an alias because
the "n" issue seems to be a typo that often is made.

Hth,
Ralf

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Kevin Donnelly 10-30-2009 11:37 AM

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On Thursday 29 October 2009 00:34, Albert Seminatore wrote:
> IF I just "SAVE FILE" from Avidemux the file extension is not saved.* For
> example an ".AVI" file is saved by name only.* Same for an .mpeg file which
> I might mention is saved as "program" when files are listed in "detail".*
> This causes a problem with Mandvd in that it can't find the files.* So I
> had to go back and add the extension to get Mandvd to recognize them. Note
> Mandvd will also take in ".avi" files.

I don't think Avidemux adds the file extensions automatically, so you have to
type them in when naming the file. I'm not sure if .avi works on a DVD - I
think you have to use .mpg files.

> When I played the dvd there was no sound.* The audio_ts file had a size of
> 0.* the gibvideo0.mpg file played perfect including video.* The ".mpg" file
> from Avidemux also played fine.* I tried this with the ".avi" file and got
> the same results.

Can you do a new .mpg file with Avidemux, just in case you got the others
mixed up, and save it? Next, can you install mplayer with Synaptic, if it's
not already installed? Also install smplayer if Synaptic doesn't select it
for you. Navigate to your newly-edited mpg file, right-click, and select
Open with Mplayer. Or start Mplayer, right-click on the odd-shaped
navigation-button widget, select Open -> Play File, and navigate to your mpg
file. Do you get sound?

If not, try right-clicking on the Mplayer navigation-button widget again, and
select Preferences -> Audio. Try setting that to OSS (I believe that's what
you used with Avidemux). Click OK, exit Mplayer, and restart it. Load the
video again - do you get sound?

If not, I think we will have to consider getting rid of PulseAudio, and trying
to use ALSA directly all the way through.

If you do, though, close Mplayer, and start ManDVD. When you load your video
in (Add a video to your project) and get the form with the video title, image
button and AVsynch options, click the Preview button at the bottom. Here,
this starts Mplayer as the preview player (and there seems to be no way to
change that default). Do you still get sound?

Go ahead and make the DVD as before. When you mount the iso, do you get sound
now?

> To unmount the dvd iso, type into the terminal:
> sudo umount testvid
>
> * This doesn't work in Ubuntu 9.10.

You're using u*n*mount instead of *u*mount.

> One final question based on my dangerous reading habits.
> Is there a way of changing a ".vro" file to ".mpg"?

Right-click on the file and select Rename. You do not need to use the
command-line for this. Note, as I said before, that renaming the file may
work, but it may not - vro seems to be a slightly different format, and you
may need to convert it. Certainly, try it.

> If this could be
> done then the Avidemux output could be used in "Kendlive" program which
> doesn't appear, based on tutorials, to be very difficult to use. The
> output from Kendlive could then be used to burn a CD or DVD I think!

Let's try getting our existing workflow to work, before trying something else.

> I
> tried using ffmpg but couldn't figure it out. I got it installed but then
> got lost with the command line. So I tried to install a GUI and that
> became an even worse task. I had hoped that Synaptic would be able to do
> the job for me but it left me out to dry.

Which GUI - Handbrake, WinFF?

> Oh one last comment. I finally have the sound turned on when I boot up.
> I was watching a you tube video of installing Ubuntu. Some where in the
> probing around it got turned on for all time. So that problem is gone for
> now.

That's good. Can you remember what you changed? Is the checkbox against
PulseAudio in Synaptic still green?

--
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Kevin Donnelly

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Ralf Mardorf 11-04-2009 12:41 PM

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Kevin Donnelly wrote:
> I'm not sure if .avi works on a DVD - I
> think you have to use .mpg files.
>

!!! IMPORTANT

I don't know too, if AVI works for "regular" video DVDs, but I guess
some DVD players can handle formats, that not every player can handle.
Even if AVI should be fine for some players, MPEG is the format that
should be used because of compatibility issues.
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Gustin Johnson 11-04-2009 06:29 PM

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Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Kevin Donnelly wrote:
>> I'm not sure if .avi works on a DVD - I
>> think you have to use .mpg files.
>>
>
> !!! IMPORTANT
>
> I don't know too, if AVI works for "regular" video DVDs, but I guess
> some DVD players can handle formats, that not every player can handle.
> Even if AVI should be fine for some players, MPEG is the format that
> should be used because of compatibility issues.
> __

Some DVD players can play avi files burned to a data DVD, but you cannot
really depend on this. A regular video DVD is encoded with MPEG-2 only.
If you mount the DVD iso image, you should find .VOB files and not .mpg
files.
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Ιάσονας Παπαδόπουλος 04-10-2012 07:27 AM

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I am a bit confused here. When i go download the full debian DVD for my USB thumb (8 GB) it sends me to this website (
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.4/i386/bt-dvd/*) which has 8 iso files. does that mean that i have to install them in a row (like the game "The Sims"?) ?

Please help me.

Mika Suomalainen 04-10-2012 08:01 AM

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On 10.04.2012 10:27, Ιάσονας *απαδόπουλος wrote:
> I am a bit confused here. When i go download the full debian DVD for my
> USB thumb (8 GB) it sends me to this website (
> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.4/i386/bt-dvd/ ) which has 8 iso
> files. does that mean that i have to install them in a row (like the
> game "The Sims"?) ?
>
> Please help me.

You need only CD-1 or DVD-1 depending on do you download CD or DVD.

http://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/ reads:
> The first CD/DVD disk contains all the files necessary to install a
> standard Debian system.
> To avoid needless downloads, please do not download other CD or DVD
> image files unless you know that you need packages on them.

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