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Old 12-26-2008, 03:31 PM
Jaromír Mikeš
 
Default multi boot question : about sharing /home between several installs

Hi,

in theory it should works .... just choose during installation of new distro2 same partition you are using as /home on distro1.
(not format this partiion.... keep existing data)
Assuming that your distro1 is also 64studio.
There are also some settings files hidden on your /home partition what can be advantage or disadvantage.
(e.g. bash, iceweasel)
So when you change something on distro1 it will probably appears on distro2 also.
I personally never tried this and probably never will because of that.
And maybe there are even more problems I am not aware.


Hope someone else here give you more detailed info.

Mira



< Hi list,
<
< As a newbie I like to know if it is possible to share the /home
< directory for 2 different installs of linux
<
< Google for it but can't find an answer (maybe don't type the right
< sentence ?)
<
< Let me explain : after 5 months of tries and tries I finally have a
< Linux who almost do what I like it to.
< In the other hand, it sounds good to share the Free's Xmas Gift, and I
< never be impolite and refuse a gift.
<
< So, to try Free Ekanayaka's present, without erasing these 5 months of
< hard work for me -maybe Free and I
< don't want the same for the PC to do ?- I like to create a new partition
< on the disk, but it's not so big
< and it could be usefull if the /home directory could be share between
< the 2 installs.
<
< Do someone here says how it can be done ? Have to acknowledge I search
< but don't find the way to do !!
<
< Or maybe there is a stratagem to circumvent the problem ?
<
< Anyway, thanks for Everybody here to do what is done here, especially
< you Free !
<
< Happy New Year Eveybody !
<
< Fred
<
<
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< > 2. Re: 64 Studio 3.0 Alpha - Christmas release (Gustin Johnson)
< > 3. Re: 64 Studio 3.0 Alpha - Christmas release (dave)
< >
< >
< > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
< >
< > Message: 1
< > Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 01:43:14 +0100 (CET)
< > From: Jarom?r Mike? <mira.mikes@seznam.cz>
< > Subject: Re: [64studio-users] 64 Studio 3.0 Alpha - Christmas release
< > To: 64studio-users@64studio.com
< > Message-ID: <10449.21725-11096-28658926-1230252194@seznam.cz>
< > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2"; format=flowed
< >
< > Hi,
< >
< > apt-get remove --purge gdm
< > apt-get install gdm
< >
< > This was a solution for the problem...
< >
< > Also panel was a little bit broken missing applets, no trash-bin on desktop,
< windows no falling down on panel, disappear somewhere after minimize icon
< click.
< >
< > Slightly different behaviour of desktop, but probably easy to get used.
< >
< > What is recommended repos for upgrading now?
< >
< > Ubuntu, Debian Lenny/Sid and 64studio Lenny-backport can be mixed together?
< >
< > Thank you for help Dave
< > Thank you for Christmas gift Free

< >
< > Happy New year ;-)
< >
< > Mira
< >

< >
< >
< > < Hi,
< > <
< > < I reinstalled now .... and instead of log-on screen I getting message:
< > <
< > < "No servers were defined in configuration file and XDMCP was disabled. This

< can
< > < only be configuration error. GDM has started a single server for you. You
< > < should log in and fix the configuration. Note that automatic and timed
< logins
< > < are disabled now."
< > <
< > < No idea what to do.
< > <
< > < :-(
< > <
< > < Mira
< > <
< > <
< > < < ----------------------------------------

< > < < I am just going to start ... I will inform... ;-)
< > < <
< > < <
< > < < <
< > < < < > Maybe I really should start from clean 2.1 64studio release?
< > < < <
< > < < < Hi Mira,
< > < < <
< > < < < Yes, without doubt, 30 minutes to install, and an hour or two to

< > < complete.
< > < < < Then you will know exactly what is going on. I am getting clean
< upgrade
< > < < < paths all the time.
< > < < <
< > < < < Cheers,

< > < < < dave.
< > < < <
< > < < < >

< > < < < >
< > < < < >
< > < < < > < Hi Dave
< > < < < > < < < gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys
< > < < < > 40976EAF437D05B5

< > < < < > < < gpgkeys: key 40976EAF437D05B5 not found on keyserver
< > < < < > < gpg: no valid OpenPGP datafound
< > < < < > < < :-(
< > < < < > < < Mira
< > < < < > < < < Hi Mira,
< > < < < > < < < < Jarom?r Mike? wrote:
< > < < < > < < < < > Hello,
< > < < < > < < >
< > < < < > < < > I followed steps bellow and I get to troubles.
< > < < < > < < >
< > < < < > < < > I get this output during step2:
< > < < < > < < >
< > < < < > < < > W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy Release: The
<
< > < < < > following

< > < < < > < < signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not
<
< > < < < > available:

< > < < < > < < NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
< > < < < > < < >
< > < < < > < < > W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates
< Release:
< > < < < > The

< > < < < > < following
< > < < < > < < signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not
<
< > < < < > available:

< > < < < > < < NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
< > < < < > < < >
< > < < < > < < > W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these
< problems
< > < < < > < < >
< > < < < > < < > < < < < You will need to import the keys.
< > < < < > < < < < gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys
< > < < < > 40976EAF437D05B5

< > < < < > < < gpg --armor --export 40976EAF437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add
< -
< > < < < > < < < < Select and drop the above into your terminal as *root*
< > < < < > < < < < > I did apt-get update again but same message again. <
< <
< > < >

< > < < < > < < > And after step3:
< > < < < > < < >
< > < < < > < < > Errors were encountered while processing:
< > < < < > < < >
< > < /var/cache/apt/archives/rtirq_20071012-0.64studio1~hardy1_all.deb
< > < < < > < < > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
< > < < < > < < >
< > < < < > < < > During step3 I lost my internet connection and I had to run
<
< > < < < > apt-get

< > < < < > < < dist-upgrade again
< > < < < > < < >
< > < < < > < < >
< > < < < > < < > After reboot I have no sound, wifi , can't launch nearly
< any
< > < < < > application

< > < < < > < < including terminal.
< > < < < > < < > My distro was echt-lenny mixed and I have i386 machine.
< > < < < > < < >
< > < < < > < < > Cheers
< > < < < > < < >
< > < < < > < < > Mira
< > < < < > < < > < < < < I never saw these other errors, it could be
< > < < < > because of the etch-lenny < < mix? did you try

< > < < < > < < < < apt-get -f install
< > < < < > < < < < when my upgrade was complete I ended up with 2 packages
<
< > < < < > held back.

< > < < < > < < It could be that your upgrade is uncompleted.
< > < < < > < < < < Cheers!
< > < < < > < < dave
< > < < < > < < < < > < < >
< > < < < > < < >
< > < < < > < < > < ------------ P?vodn? zpr?va ------------
< > < < < > < < > < Od: Free Ekanayaka <free@64studio.com>
< > < < < > < < > < P?edm?t: [64studio-users] 64 Studio 3.0 Alpha -
< Christmas
< > < < < > release

< > < < < > < < > < Datum: 24.12.2008 19:46:36
< > < < < > < < > < ----------------------------------------
< > < < < > < < > < Hi,
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < here's a small Christmas gift for the 64
< Studio
< > < < < > community

< > < < < > < < > < < < > < As you all probably know Debian/lenny has
< been
< > < < < > delayed and it is not
< > < < < > < < > < yet clear when it will be released (it was initially
< > < < < > scheduled for

< > < < < > < < > < September 2008). Practically this means that we can't
< set
< > < < < > any schedule

< > < < < > < < > < for a lenny-based 64 Studio 3.0.
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < So we decided to change a bit the plan and
< start
< > < < < > working on an

< > < < < > < < > < Ubuntu/hardy-based 64 Studio 3.0, which is a platform we
<
< > < < < > already

< > < < < > < < > < deploy for several projects and known to be stable.
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < For the braves of you here follows some
< > < < < > instructions about how to

< > < < < > < < > < upgrade from 64 Studio 2.1 to the developing branch of
< 64
< > < < < > Studio

< > < < < > < < > < 3.0. Please keep in mind that all this is still in alpha
<
< > < < < > stage, but

< > < < < > < < > < should be already pretty usable.
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < Last but not least, please note that the
< > < < < > procedure below has been

< > < < < > < < > < tested on the i386 version only. The amd64 version was
< not
< > < < < > tested,

< > < < < > < < > < but reports are welcome.
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < Merry Christmas and happy testing to
< everybody.
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < Ciao!
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < Free
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < ============= 2.1 -> 3.0alpha upgrade
< > < instructions
< > < < < > < =====================
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < 0) You should have two APT sources files on
< your
< > < < < > 2.1 install:

< > < < < > < < > < < < > < /etc/apt/sources.list
< > < < < > < < > < /etc/apt/sources.list.d/64studio.list
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < comment *ALL* entries you have in these two
<
< > < < < > files, and in

< > < < < > < < > < the following steps use only the file:
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < /etc/apt/sources.list
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < 1) Add
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian etch main
< > < < < > contrib non-free

< > < < < > < < > < deb http://apt.64studio.com/backports etch-backports
< main
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < to your /etc/apt/sources.list and run:
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < apt-get update
< > < < < > < < > < apt-get install dpkg
< > < < < > < < > < apt-get remove firefox meterbridge
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < 2) Remove the APT entries of step 1) from
< your
< > < < < > /etc/apt/sources.list

< > < < < > < < > < and add these new repositories:
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy
< main
< > < < < > restricted multiverse

< > < < < > < < universe
< > < < < > < < > < deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-updates main
<
< > < < < > restricted

< > < < < > < < multiverse
< > < < < > < < > < universe
< > < < < > < < > < deb http://apt.64studio.com/backports hardy-backports
< main
< > < < < > < < > < deb http://people.64studio.com/~free/64studio ./
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < Then run:
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < apt-get install ubuntu-keyring
< > < < < > < < > < apt-get install
< > < sysv-rc=2.86.ds1-14.1ubuntu45.64studio1~hardy1
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < 3) Now run:
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < apt-get dist-upgrade
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < and choose the default answer to all
< questions.
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < 4) Finally issue a:
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < reboot
< > < < < > < < > < < < > < from the terminal.
< > < < < > < < > < < < <
< > < < < >
< > < <
< > <
< ================================================== ============================
< > < < <
< > < < < >

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< >
< > ------------------------------
< >
< > Message: 2
< > Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:33:39 -0700
< > From: Gustin Johnson <gustin@echostar.ca>
< > Subject: Re: [64studio-users] 64 Studio 3.0 Alpha - Christmas release
< > To: Jarom?r Mike? <mira.mikes@seznam.cz>
< > Cc: 64studio-users@64studio.com
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< > Jarom?r Mike? wrote:
< >
< >> Hi,

< >>
< >> apt-get remove --purge gdm
< >> apt-get install gdm
< >>
< >> This was a solution for the problem...
< >>
< >> Also panel was a little bit broken missing applets, no trash-bin on
< >> desktop, windows no falling down on panel, disappear somewhere after
< >> minimize icon click.
< >>
< >> Slightly different behaviour of desktop, but probably easy to get used.
< >>
< >> What is recommended repos for upgrading now?
< >>
< >>
< > I am going to guess that the default ones are the "recommended" repos.

< >
< >
< >> Ubuntu, Debian Lenny/Sid and 64studio Lenny-backport can be mixed together?

< >>
< >>
< > The short answer is no. If you really know what you are doing you may

< > be able to mix and match, but in my experience this is more hassle than
< > it is worth.
< >
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< > ------------------------------
< >
< > Message: 3
< > Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:56:28 +0000
< > From: dave <drbudo@ntlworld.com>
< > Subject: Re: [64studio-users] 64 Studio 3.0 Alpha - Christmas release
< > To: 64studio-users@64studio.com
< > Message-ID: <49549C3C.70504@ntlworld.com>
< > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed
< >
< > Jarom?r Mike? wrote:
< >
< >
< >> Hi,

< >>
< >> apt-get remove --purge gdm
< >> apt-get install gdm
< >>
< >> This was a solution for the problem...
< >>
< >> Also panel was a little bit broken missing applets, no trash-bin on
< >> desktop, windows no falling down on panel, disappear somewhere after
< >> minimize icon click.

< >>
< >> Slightly different behaviour of desktop, but probably easy to get used.
< >>
< >> What is recommended repos for upgrading now?
< >>
< >> Ubuntu, Debian Lenny/Sid and 64studio Lenny-backport can be mixed
< >> together?

< >>
< >> Thank you for help Dave Thank you for Christmas gift Free
< >>
< >> Happy New year ;-)
< >>
< >> Mira
< >>
< >>
< >

< > Hi Mira,
< >
< > Great to see you got up an running :-)
< >

< > Checkout the fixes in my first post.
< > To correct the kernel error message you see in the boot verbose.
< >
< > $ sudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf
< >
< > Comment out these entries.
< >
< > #kernel.maps_protect =1
< > #vm.mmap_min_addr = 65536
< >
< > If you run a search for "dpkg-old" or "old" you can checkout which files
< > have been changed during the upgrade.

< >
< > $ sudo find / -name '*old'
< >
< > $ apt-cache policy gconf-editor
< >
< > Installing gconf-editor might help with some of your desktop settings.
< >
< > Happy New year ;-)
< >
< > Cheers!
< > dave.
< >
< >
< >
< >

< >
< >
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:00 PM
Ichthyostega
 
Default multi boot question : about sharing /home between several installs

JaromÃ*r MikeÅ¡ schrieb:
> in theory it should works .... just choose during installation of new
> distro2 same partition you are using as /home on distro1. (not format this
> partiion.... keep existing data) Assuming that your distro1 is also 64studio.
> There are also some settings files hidden on your /home partition what can
> be advantage or disadvantage. (e.g. bash, iceweasel) So when you change
> something on distro1 it will probably appears on distro2 also. I personally
> never tried this and probably never will because of that. And maybe there are
> even more problems I am not aware. Hope someone else here give you more
> detailed info.

I think JaromÃ*r gave the complete answer. Basically this setup (can) work,
but in practice it requires some maintenance and never works to 100%

The reason is: when you use the same application in both setups, but with
a different version in each, then the newer version might use a changed format
for saving the profile data in the mentioned hidden files within the home
directory, which might cause the older version of the same application either
to malfunction or even to deem the profile information to be broken and
completely erase it and replace it with built-in defaults. Especially
sharing mail folders and browser bookmarks can quickly get problematic.

Another option would be to separate your "work files" from your home
directory, i.e. the documents, audio files, project data you are working
on. Going this route, you'd use a separate home directory in each of
your linux installations, but put your work files into a common shared
partition which you setup such as to be mounted in each installation,
preferable even under the same path (eg. /mnt/work/...)

Of course, the basic problem with different program version remains
the same (e.g. if you user different versions of OpenOffice). But
in practice, typically you are actually working with just with a very
limited set of applications, which gives you better chances to
control the situation.

In any case, it is not necessary to throw away your configuration
when starting out with a new linux installation. Just make sure you
have a backup of your home directory (especially including all those
hidden files and configuration subdirectories below).
Then, in the new installation, just copy the contents of your backup
into the new home folder. Of course, this works best when you aren't
logged in as this uses the moment you do the copy (typically you need
to be root anyways, and often you have to change owner or UID on the
files). I take it that you have some basic knowledge how to manipulate
files and directories under *nix.

hope this helps
Hermann




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Old 01-02-2009, 03:00 PM
Ralf Mardorf
 
Default multi boot question : about sharing /home between several installs

Ichthyostega wrote:
> Then, in the new installation, just copy the contents of your backup
> into the new home folder. Of course, this works best when you aren't
> logged in as this uses the moment you do the copy (typically you need
> to be root anyways, and often you have to change owner or UID on the
> files).
>

Hi

bit by bit I'm reading the mails I got over the festive season, I'm
sorry if I write something that was written before.

If someone is installing one user only, I guess he always will have the
UID 1000. Even if he changed the user name, so if coping by using
preserving options, there isn't the need to change the owner.

I never noticed anything different when using several distros and
especially shared folders for music data etc..

Happy New Year!
Ralf

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