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Old 10-25-2008, 06:00 PM
"Pablo Fernandez"
 
Default Welcome Christian

Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 02:17:23 +0200

From: "Christian" <christian08@runbox.com>

Subject: [64studio-users] Question about installing 64Studio

To: 64studio-users@64studio.com

Message-ID: <200810250217230343.000CFC76@127.0.0.1>

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hi all,

I have just subscribed to this list.

I am just downloading the v2.1 version of 64Studio.

Since I am visually impaired I rely on speech and or braille.

Does the installation CD contain the standard Debian installer?

Is BRLTTY included on the CD?

Best regards and thanks,

Christian




Welcome Christian.
Just to* comment* that there is a visually impaired man who sometimes writes to the Linux Audio Users mailing list. You might want to meet him.

You can join the LAU at http://lau.linuxaudio.org/





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Old 10-26-2008, 09:31 AM
Ralf Mardorf
 
Default Welcome Christian

Pablo Fernandez wrote:
>
> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 02:17:23 +0200
> From: "Christian" <christian08@runbox.com
> <mailto:christian08@runbox.com>>
> Subject: [64studio-users] Question about installing 64Studio
> To: 64studio-users@64studio.com <mailto:64studio-users@64studio.com>
> Message-ID: <200810250217230343.000CFC76@127.0.0.1
> <mailto:200810250217230343.000CFC76@127.0.0.1>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> hi all,
> I have just subscribed to this list.
> I am just downloading the v2.1 version of 64Studio.
> Since I am visually impaired I rely on speech and or braille.
> Does the installation CD contain the standard Debian installer?
> Is BRLTTY included on the CD?
> Best regards and thanks,
> Christian
>
>
> Welcome Christian.
> Just to comment that there is a visually impaired man who sometimes
> writes to the Linux Audio Users mailing list. You might want to meet him.
>
> You can join the LAU at http://lau.linuxaudio.org/

Hi Pablo hi Christian

Christian you might have to be patient. A lot of people with knowledge
about 64 Studio aren't active in this list during the weekends. I'm glad
that you subscribed to the list. As you know I don't have the knowledge
about Linux for visually impaired people, but right after I've sent this
email, I'll simulate an install and 'see' if there might be an option
that might be hidden for you.

To be continued.

Cheers,
Ralf

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Old 10-26-2008, 10:20 AM
Ralf Mardorf
 
Default Welcome Christian

Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Pablo Fernandez wrote:
>
>> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 02:17:23 +0200
>> From: "Christian" <christian08@runbox.com
>> <mailto:christian08@runbox.com>>
>> Subject: [64studio-users] Question about installing 64Studio
>> To: 64studio-users@64studio.com <mailto:64studio-users@64studio.com>
>> Message-ID: <200810250217230343.000CFC76@127.0.0.1
>> <mailto:200810250217230343.000CFC76@127.0.0.1>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> hi all,
>> I have just subscribed to this list.
>> I am just downloading the v2.1 version of 64Studio.
>> Since I am visually impaired I rely on speech and or braille.
>> Does the installation CD contain the standard Debian installer?
>> Is BRLTTY included on the CD?
>> Best regards and thanks,
>> Christian
>>
>>
>> Welcome Christian.
>> Just to comment that there is a visually impaired man who sometimes
>> writes to the Linux Audio Users mailing list. You might want to meet him.
>>
>> You can join the LAU at http://lau.linuxaudio.org/
>>
>
> Hi Pablo hi Christian
>
> Christian you might have to be patient. A lot of people with knowledge
> about 64 Studio aren't active in this list during the weekends. I'm glad
> that you subscribed to the list. As you know I don't have the knowledge
> about Linux for visually impaired people, but right after I've sent this
> email, I'll simulate an install and 'see' if there might be an option
> that might be hidden for you.
>
> To be continued.
>
> Cheers,
> Ralf
>

After the 2.1 64-bit install DVD was booted, I could push F1 to get a
help menu.
It seems to be the original Debian installer.
I rebooted from the install media again.
Behind 'boot: ' I typed 'brltty=driver,device,texttable'.
I got a message: 'Could not find kernel image:
brltty=driver,device,texttable'
Maybe you can get help on the Debian homepage.

As I've written to you, Suse 11.0 64-bit don't cause the troubles with
the sound server you got when running Ubuntu Hardy, but I'm running KDE
there. Normally you won't get troubles when running Suse, but if you'll
run into problems, there isn't such a community like there is for 64
Studio, so you better stay at 64 Studio, anyway I tested

boot: brltyy=driver,device,texttable

It seems to be fine for the Suse installer, braille settings were loaded
and the install menu started. Because I only have a monitor I can't say
if braille really was fine.

In case of emergency, if 64 Studio can't be installed by yourself, you
should try Suse 11.0. The advantage of Suse is, that you can get more
and newer audio applications, the handycap of Suse is, that you have to
do the RT settings yourself (group audio and /etc/security/limits.conf),
also there is the need to copy or move sometimes libs from folders for
32-bit to folders for 64-bit and again, there isn't such a audio
community like there is for 64 Studio.

Maybe you first can try to get information about braille for a regular
Debian installer. It might be possible, that you only have to get some
additions, that can be integrated to the 64 Studio installer.

I'm short at time this weekend, so I can't do more at the moment.

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Old 10-26-2008, 10:27 AM
Ralf Mardorf
 
Default Welcome Christian

If you copy and paste from my emails, make sure that I don't have typos
in my mails, e.g. 'brltyy' instead of 'brltty' .


Ralf

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Old 10-26-2008, 10:46 AM
Ralf Mardorf
 
Default Welcome Christian

I might did a typo when running the 64 Studio installer, but there seems
to be a problem for the Debian Etch installer anyway. 64 Studio 2.1 is a
Debian Etch.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/03/msg01035.html

I hope I misunderstood something.

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Old 10-26-2008, 12:05 PM
Ralf Mardorf
 
Default Welcome Christian

Christian wrote:
> Where can I get information about subscribing to the 64studio mailing list?
>

I wasn't online yesterday, but you still found out yourself how to
subscribe.

Maybe the people from the list and I should know something about braille
hardware.

I guess you have one line for braille?

Webpages often have a menu at the top or the right side and some text in
the middle, e.g. the 64 Studio homepage is similar like this.

Is this hard to find out by using a braille line?

I guess there is no way for you to feel out pictures?

Webpages are normally formated by HTML.

For people that are able to see, 'tables' formated by HTML are very
clear. I don't know what will happen to HTML format when converted to
braille.

Maybe you can tell us what are typical problems for Orca and some audio
applications.

Please tell us, which languages you are able to understand. Maybe
someone knows information in another language.

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