Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
>> e.g. for a syncopic feeling human touch jitter always has negative delay,
>>
>
> I think I'm not wrong with this, but ...
>
>
>> when playing a funeral march it always has positive
>>
>>
>
> ... I guess I was mistaken with this. Human touch seems to be more
> complicated.
>
> IMO humans, resp. good musicians will never do positive delayed jitter.
> Exaggerated we tend to play funeral march feeling like parts, that
> should be e.g. 110BPM instead at 109BPM, but the jitter might always be
> negative delayed.
>
> I think positive delayed jitter only will be made by machines and people
> with less good timing. I didn't test this, so I'm not sure, but I won't
> believe that we will tend to delay notes and rests.
>
> For music that is played by beats, I guess human touch jitter must be
> negative delayed. Imagine someone singing, when he can't hear his
> realtime voice, only a delayed voice. He will become slower and slower,
> because he tend to adjust the latency.
>
> It won't be a help a machine with positive and negative jitter after
> recording to give added *NEGATIVE* delay, because there might be something else for
> music that is played by beats. The feeling of the bar. People from an
> African culture that are used to do 5/4 bars will have another kind of
> human touch jitter, than European people doing the same songs, with a
> more 2/4 + 3/4 bar feeling. Computer jitter is without those effects,
> it's not musical.
>
> It's speculative, but it's not speculative that computer jitter is
> different to human touch.
>
> Cheers,
> Ralf
>

This all are written words, it's not absolute, there might be also
positive delay for good musicians, but a machine might tend to do +-2ms
and humans +1ms and -0,5ms, this is pure fantasy, as I've written, I
never tested this.

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