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Old 06-18-2008, 07:49 AM
Ralf Mardorf
 
Default 64 Studio Lenny and proprietary driver for an integrated ATI

Gustin Johnson wrote:
> Is the fglrx kernel module actually loaded?
> lsmod |grep fglrx
>
> If so then do the following:
>
> ~From the command prompt (ie. ctrl-alt-F1)
> sudo /etc/gdm stop
> sudo rmmod fglrx
> sudo modprobe fglrx
> dmesg
>
> What do the last few lines of dmesg say? Any errors or warnings?

Hi Gustin

1. I run lsmod |grep fglrx and lsmod without grep, there's no module fglrx.
2. ctrl-alt-F1, login as root
3. /etc/gdm stop and gdm stop won't work
4. killall gdm and check out if it's done by running pidof gdm, it's
fine, no gdm anymore
5. There's no module fglrx, anyhow I run rmmod fglrx and get an ERROR:
Module fglrx does not exist in /proc/modules
6. I tried modprobe fglrx and get FATAL: Module fglrx not found
7. dmesg
Off topic, but also relevant because of another problem, that seems to
appear since I tried the fglrx module:

ALSA /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/acore/init.c:174: cannot find the slot
for index 2 (range 0-2), error: -16
ALSA /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/usb/usbaudio.c:3518: cannot create
card instance 0
snd-usb-audio: probe of 2-1:1.0 failed with error -5
usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio

Nothing else from dmesg :S. I can force to get the TerraTec soundcard,
but than I lose the USB-MIDInterface.

Back to the fglrx: Why isn't there the module?

Again:

64studio:/home/spinymouse/Desktop/tmp# sh
ati-driver-installer-8-5-x86.x86_64.run
Created directory fglrx-install.CY4311
Verifying archive integrity... All good.
Uncompressing ATI Proprietary Linux
Driver-8.493.1........................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..........
==================================================
ATI Technologies Linux Driver Installer/Packager
==================================================
Detected configuration:
Architecture: x86_64 (64-bit)
X Server: X.Org 7.1 and later releases 64-bit
loki_setup: directory: (null)
Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install.CY4311
64studio:/home/spinymouse/Desktop/tmp#

The logfile is in /usr/share/ati and if fglrx isn't loaded, it is
recommended to run aticonfig --initial -f, so I will make a backup of
xorg.conf and go on this way, resp. I won't make the backup and I won't
run aticonfig, because of the logfile:

[Message] Kernel Module : Trying to install a precompiled kernel module.
[Message] Kernel Module : Precompiled kernel module version mismatched.
[Message] Kernel Module : Found kernel module build environment,
generating kernel module now.
ATI module generator V 2.0
==========================
initializing...
cleaning...
patching 'highmem.h'...
assuming new VMA API since we do have kernel 2.6.x...
Assuming default VMAP API
Assuming default munmap API
doing Makefile based build for kernel 2.6.x and higher
make -C /lib/modules/2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64/build
SUBDIRS=/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x modules
make[1]: Entering directory
`/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64'
CC [M] /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.o
/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:889: warning:
function declaration isn’t a prototype
/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c: In function
‘KCL_pci_enable_device_bars’:
/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:1684: warning:
passing argument 1 of ‘pci_read_config_word’ from incompatible pointer type
/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:1696: warning:
passing argument 1 of ‘pci_write_config_word’ from incompatible pointer type
/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c: In function
‘firegl_put_user_ptr’:
/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:1801: warning: cast
from pointer to integer of different size
/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:1801: warning: cast
from pointer to integer of different size
/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:1801: warning: cast
from pointer to integer of different size
/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:1801: warning: cast
from pointer to integer of different size
/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c: In function
‘__ke_unregister_ioctl32_conversion’:
/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:3193: warning:
‘return’ with a value, in function returning void
/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c: In function
‘KAS_SlabCache_Initialize’:
/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:5447: warning: cast
from pointer to integer of different size
LD [M] /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/fglrx.o
Building modules, stage 2.
MODPOST 1 modules
FATAL: modpost: GPL-incompatible module fglrx.ko uses GPL-only symbol
'__rcu_read_lock'
make[2]: *** [__modpost] Error 1
make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64'
make: *** [kmod_build] Error 2
build failed with return value 2
[Error] Kernel Module : Failed to compile kernel module - please consult
readme.

There seems to be no readme but I've taken a look at
/usr/share/doc/ati/user-manual/index.html:

ATI's Linux Driver
Features at a Glance
The following features are supported by ATI's High Performance
Proprietary Driver. Certian features are not supported on some cards.
2D Features
Accellerated 3D
Multiple Monitors
Direct Graphics Access
Mixed 8/24 bpp Visuals
3D Features
Hardware Accellerated OpenGL
OpenGL 1.5
3D Stereo
OpenGL Mixed Visuals
Full Scene Anti-Aliasing
Application Profiles
Multimedia Features
TV Out
XVideo Video Acceleration
Supported Cards
FireGL Workstation
FireGL 8700, FireGL 8800
FireGL T2
FireGL X1, FireGL X2
FireGL Z1, FireGL Z2

Mobile FireGL Workstation
FireGL Mobility T2

Desktop Radeon
Radeon 8500, Radeon 8500 All-In-Wonder*
Radeon 9100
Radeon 9500, Radeon 9500 Pro
Radeon 9600, Radeon 9600 Pro, Radeon 9600 XT
Radeon 9700, Radeon 9700 Pro
Radeon 9800, Radeon 9800 Pro, Radeon 9800 XT
Radeon X800

Mobility Radeon
Mobility Radeon 9000
Mobility Radeon 9600
Mobility Radeon 9700

Integrated Radeon
Radeon IGP 9000**
Radeon IGP 9100**

* TV Capture is currently not supported for All-In-Wonder products
** 3D is currently not supported for the Radeon IGP 9000 & Radeon IGP 9100

System Requirements
Installation
Configuration
A
Supported Features

This is the whole document, there are no files for "System Requirements"
etc.. My card is an integrated Radeon X1250-based graphics and the
driver *for* the X1250 is from ATI, see below, number 2:

> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> | Hi
> |
> | The integrated ATI is a Radeon X1250-based graphics and the mobo is an
> | ASUS M2A-VM HDMI.
> |
> | The actual state of affairs:
> |
> | * (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so
> | (EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (loader failed, 7)
> | (EE) fglrx(0): atiddxDriScreenInit failed, GPS not been
> initialized.
> | (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
> | * If the USB-MIDInterface is fine, the TerraTec sound card isn't
> fine.
> | If the TerraTec soundcard is fine, the USB-MIDI isn't fine.
> | This might has to do with the ATI driver.
> | * DVD-RAM won't work. This definitively is independent of the ATI
> | troubles.
> |
> | What I've done:
> |
> | 1. I enabled the repository for Lenny and disabled all other
> | repositories.
> | I reloaded package information and after this Synaptic does this:
> |
> | Commit Log for Tue Jun 17 08:43:44 2008
> |
> |
> | Completely removed the following packages:
> | libgl1-mesa-dri
> | libgl1-mesa-glx
> |
> | Removed the following packages:
> | linux-image-2.6-amd64
> | linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64
> | linux-image-2.6.24-1-amd64
> |
> | Upgraded the following packages:
> | xorg (1:7.1.0-19) to 1:7.3+10
> |
> | Installed the following packages:
> | libgl1-mesa-swx11 (7.0.3-1)
> | libgl1-mesa-swx11-dbg (7.0.3-1)
> | libgl1-mesa-swx11-dev (7.0.3-1)
> | libosmesa6 (7.0.3-1)
> | mesa-swx11-source (7.0.3-1)
> |
> | I disabled the repository for Lenny and enabled some other
> | repositories and after that Synaptic does an upgrade of Ardour.
> | 2. I downloaded the Linux 86_64 Integrated/Motherboard Radeon Xpress
> | 1250 installer from http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html.
> | It's fromMay 21, 2008 and includes the automated installer and
> | display drivers for X.Org 6.7, 6.8, 6.9, 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, 7.3.
> | The installed package xorg is version 1:7.3-10 and Synaptic can't
> | find any broken packages.
> | 3. While doing the download, I've taken a look at the ATI proprietary
> | Linux driver FAQs, but there I also can't find any help.
> | 4. The only kernel now is 2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64, headers are also
> | installed.
> | 5. 64studio:/home/spinymouse/Desktop/tmp# sh
> | ati-driver-installer-8-5-x86.x86_64.run
> | 6. It seems to be "All good".
> | 7. I choose "Install Driver"
> | 8. I choose "Automatic" mode of installation.
> | 9. Instead of killing X I've done a reboot (xorg.conf is still an
> | optimized one for the ATI driver, I won't attach it now, because
> | this might stop this mail from coming direct through the list and
> | only will cause the administrators work).
> | 10. spinymouse@64studio:~$ grep "EE" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
> | Current Operating System: Linux 64studio 2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64
> | #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Fri Jun 22 00:00:33 UTC 2007 x86_64
> | (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??)
> unknown.
> | (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so
> | (EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (loader failed, 7)
> | (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
> | (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
> | (EE) fglrx(0): atiddxDriScreenInit failed, GPS not been
> initialized.
> | (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
> |
> | Nothing changed for the ATI driver. I'll copy the xorg.conf into another
> | mail right now.
> |
> | Any ideas, what I'm doing wrong?

So it might be, that I have do make my Linux less functional, by giving
up a PCI card, to get a free slot for a graphic card, that than might
not work, because it only will work in one special slot, that I can't
clear for the graphic card.

Any ideas how I can make the integrated ATI work? Any recommendations
for a low cost PCI Express x16, PCI Express x1 or PCI card? I have no
AGP or any other slot, only those PCI slots.

At the and I might have to buy a new mobo. I'm very poor, I get my food
from charity, food that normally will be junked by supermarkets and this
fucking mobo is a mobo I bought at 03/31/2008, because my old hardware
wasn't fine with Linux, a friend still gets 100,- EUR from me, because
he lent me the money and before I ordered my new hardware, I get the
informations that this hardware should be fine with Linux.

I won't belief any vendors any more and all the communities lists I
know. Is there a verified list for hardware that will be fine with Linux?

The other problem is, that normally I don't buy computer hardware, I get
most of it from the bulk garbage and only because of Linux I sometimes
buy computer hardware. I can't remember when I ordered guitar strings
the last time because of my efforts to get my hardware running with
Linux .

I might should do some unethical work myself, e.g work for Brauner,
Microsoft and other sucking people to get the money to be fine with
Linux. Is this the only way to life on this planet? I stopped working
for people like those and now quality of life goes more and more to the
dogs.

If you're using a Windows without licence and cracks, the people think
you're "normal", if someone is honest, using FOSS like Linux, people
think you're a freak.

This is why I can't make other people using Linux. I always have to say:
"To make music you have to boot 64 Studio", "to backup to the only safe
medium dvdram, you have to boot another Linux, e.g. Suse", "If you want
to have fax etc. you need a board with many pci slots and you have to
buy a lot of cards, because most of your equipment won't work with
Linux", "you also need another printer" ...

I ought to lynch all this capitalists, doing all they can do, to
maintain the monopolies of Apple and Microsoft. If ATI will give the
needed informations to program drivers, what should a rival company use
this information for?

Sorry ... I'll come back to my troubles later and will try again to
solve the ATI problem.

Cheers,
Ralf

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Old 06-18-2008, 02:17 PM
Gustin Johnson
 
Default 64 Studio Lenny and proprietary driver for an integrated ATI

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If lsmod |grep fglrx does not return anything, then the kernel module is
not loaded, which means the driver is not installed.

There was an error building the module, I am not sure why (coding is not
my strong suit).

A friend of mine has a similar motherboard. It came with a board in the
PCI-E slot to add an HDMI port. We pulled it out and put in an nVidia
7100 that he had lying around. At least the board that I saw had two
PCI and one PCI-E.

If you are replacing the board, there are some Asus boards that have
onboard nvidia (6150s, maybe newer now) that work well under linux. The
last one I bought for my parents was ~$85 CDN (40 odd euros).

Sorry I could not be of more help.

Ralf Mardorf wrote:
| Gustin Johnson wrote:
|> Is the fglrx kernel module actually loaded?
|> lsmod |grep fglrx
|>
|> If so then do the following:
|>
|> ~From the command prompt (ie. ctrl-alt-F1)
|> sudo /etc/gdm stop
|> sudo rmmod fglrx
|> sudo modprobe fglrx
|> dmesg
|>
|> What do the last few lines of dmesg say? Any errors or warnings?
|
| Hi Gustin
|
| 1. I run lsmod |grep fglrx and lsmod without grep, there's no module
fglrx.
| 2. ctrl-alt-F1, login as root
| 3. /etc/gdm stop and gdm stop won't work
| 4. killall gdm and check out if it's done by running pidof gdm, it's
| fine, no gdm anymore
| 5. There's no module fglrx, anyhow I run rmmod fglrx and get an ERROR:
| Module fglrx does not exist in /proc/modules
| 6. I tried modprobe fglrx and get FATAL: Module fglrx not found
| 7. dmesg
| Off topic, but also relevant because of another problem, that seems to
| appear since I tried the fglrx module:
|
| ALSA /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/acore/init.c:174: cannot find the slot
| for index 2 (range 0-2), error: -16
| ALSA /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/usb/usbaudio.c:3518: cannot create
| card instance 0
| snd-usb-audio: probe of 2-1:1.0 failed with error -5
| usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio
|
| Nothing else from dmesg :S. I can force to get the TerraTec soundcard,
| but than I lose the USB-MIDInterface.
|
| Back to the fglrx: Why isn't there the module?
|
| Again:
|
| 64studio:/home/spinymouse/Desktop/tmp# sh
| ati-driver-installer-8-5-x86.x86_64.run
| Created directory fglrx-install.CY4311
| Verifying archive integrity... All good.
| Uncompressing ATI Proprietary Linux
|
Driver-8.493.1........................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..........
| ==================================================
| ATI Technologies Linux Driver Installer/Packager
| ==================================================
| Detected configuration:
| Architecture: x86_64 (64-bit)
| X Server: X.Org 7.1 and later releases 64-bit
| loki_setup: directory: (null)
| Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install.CY4311
| 64studio:/home/spinymouse/Desktop/tmp#
|
| The logfile is in /usr/share/ati and if fglrx isn't loaded, it is
| recommended to run aticonfig --initial -f, so I will make a backup of
| xorg.conf and go on this way, resp. I won't make the backup and I won't
| run aticonfig, because of the logfile:
|
| [Message] Kernel Module : Trying to install a precompiled kernel module.
| [Message] Kernel Module : Precompiled kernel module version mismatched.
| [Message] Kernel Module : Found kernel module build environment,
| generating kernel module now.
| ATI module generator V 2.0
| ==========================
| initializing...
| cleaning...
| patching 'highmem.h'...
| assuming new VMA API since we do have kernel 2.6.x...
| Assuming default VMAP API
| Assuming default munmap API
| doing Makefile based build for kernel 2.6.x and higher
| make -C /lib/modules/2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64/build
| SUBDIRS=/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x modules
| make[1]: Entering directory
| `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64'
| CC [M] /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.o
| /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:889: warning:
| function declaration isn’t a prototype
| /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c: In function
| ‘KCL_pci_enable_device_bars’:
| /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:1684: warning:
| passing argument 1 of ‘pci_read_config_word’ from incompatible pointer
type
| /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:1696: warning:
| passing argument 1 of ‘pci_write_config_word’ from incompatible
pointer type
| /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c: In function
| ‘firegl_put_user_ptr’:
| /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:1801: warning: cast
| from pointer to integer of different size
| /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:1801: warning: cast
| from pointer to integer of different size
| /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:1801: warning: cast
| from pointer to integer of different size
| /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:1801: warning: cast
| from pointer to integer of different size
| /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c: In function
| ‘__ke_unregister_ioctl32_conversion’:
| /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:3193: warning:
| ‘return’ with a value, in function returning void
| /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c: In function
| ‘KAS_SlabCache_Initialize’:
| /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:5447: warning: cast
| from pointer to integer of different size
| LD [M] /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/fglrx.o
| Building modules, stage 2.
| MODPOST 1 modules
| FATAL: modpost: GPL-incompatible module fglrx.ko uses GPL-only symbol
| '__rcu_read_lock'
| make[2]: *** [__modpost] Error 1
| make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2
| make[1]: Leaving directory
| `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64'
| make: *** [kmod_build] Error 2
| build failed with return value 2
| [Error] Kernel Module : Failed to compile kernel module - please consult
| readme.
|
| There seems to be no readme but I've taken a look at
| /usr/share/doc/ati/user-manual/index.html:
|
| ATI's Linux Driver
| Features at a Glance
| The following features are supported by ATI's High Performance
| Proprietary Driver. Certian features are not supported on some cards.
| 2D Features
| Accellerated 3D
| Multiple Monitors
| Direct Graphics Access
| Mixed 8/24 bpp Visuals
| 3D Features
| Hardware Accellerated OpenGL
| OpenGL 1.5
| 3D Stereo
| OpenGL Mixed Visuals
| Full Scene Anti-Aliasing
| Application Profiles
| Multimedia Features
| TV Out
| XVideo Video Acceleration
| Supported Cards
| FireGL Workstation
| FireGL 8700, FireGL 8800
| FireGL T2
| FireGL X1, FireGL X2
| FireGL Z1, FireGL Z2
|
| Mobile FireGL Workstation
| FireGL Mobility T2
|
| Desktop Radeon
| Radeon 8500, Radeon 8500 All-In-Wonder*
| Radeon 9100
| Radeon 9500, Radeon 9500 Pro
| Radeon 9600, Radeon 9600 Pro, Radeon 9600 XT
| Radeon 9700, Radeon 9700 Pro
| Radeon 9800, Radeon 9800 Pro, Radeon 9800 XT
| Radeon X800
|
| Mobility Radeon
| Mobility Radeon 9000
| Mobility Radeon 9600
| Mobility Radeon 9700
|
| Integrated Radeon
| Radeon IGP 9000**
| Radeon IGP 9100**
|
| * TV Capture is currently not supported for All-In-Wonder products
| ** 3D is currently not supported for the Radeon IGP 9000 & Radeon IGP
9100
|
| System Requirements
| Installation
| Configuration
| A
| Supported Features
|
| This is the whole document, there are no files for "System Requirements"
| etc.. My card is an integrated Radeon X1250-based graphics and the
| driver *for* the X1250 is from ATI, see below, number 2:
|
|> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
|> | Hi
|> |
|> | The integrated ATI is a Radeon X1250-based graphics and the mobo is an
|> | ASUS M2A-VM HDMI.
|> |
|> | The actual state of affairs:
|> |
|> | * (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so
|> | (EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (loader failed, 7)
|> | (EE) fglrx(0): atiddxDriScreenInit failed, GPS not been
|> initialized.
|> | (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
|> | * If the USB-MIDInterface is fine, the TerraTec sound card isn't
|> fine.
|> | If the TerraTec soundcard is fine, the USB-MIDI isn't fine.
|> | This might has to do with the ATI driver.
|> | * DVD-RAM won't work. This definitively is independent of the ATI
|> | troubles.
|> |
|> | What I've done:
|> |
|> | 1. I enabled the repository for Lenny and disabled all other
|> | repositories.
|> | I reloaded package information and after this Synaptic does this:
|> |
|> | Commit Log for Tue Jun 17 08:43:44 2008
|> |
|> |
|> | Completely removed the following packages:
|> | libgl1-mesa-dri
|> | libgl1-mesa-glx
|> |
|> | Removed the following packages:
|> | linux-image-2.6-amd64
|> | linux-image-2.6.18-6-amd64
|> | linux-image-2.6.24-1-amd64
|> |
|> | Upgraded the following packages:
|> | xorg (1:7.1.0-19) to 1:7.3+10
|> |
|> | Installed the following packages:
|> | libgl1-mesa-swx11 (7.0.3-1)
|> | libgl1-mesa-swx11-dbg (7.0.3-1)
|> | libgl1-mesa-swx11-dev (7.0.3-1)
|> | libosmesa6 (7.0.3-1)
|> | mesa-swx11-source (7.0.3-1)
|> |
|> | I disabled the repository for Lenny and enabled some other
|> | repositories and after that Synaptic does an upgrade of Ardour.
|> | 2. I downloaded the Linux 86_64 Integrated/Motherboard Radeon Xpress
|> | 1250 installer from http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html.
|> | It's fromMay 21, 2008 and includes the automated installer and
|> | display drivers for X.Org 6.7, 6.8, 6.9, 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, 7.3.
|> | The installed package xorg is version 1:7.3-10 and Synaptic can't
|> | find any broken packages.
|> | 3. While doing the download, I've taken a look at the ATI
proprietary
|> | Linux driver FAQs, but there I also can't find any help.
|> | 4. The only kernel now is 2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64, headers are
also
|> | installed.
|> | 5. 64studio:/home/spinymouse/Desktop/tmp# sh
|> | ati-driver-installer-8-5-x86.x86_64.run
|> | 6. It seems to be "All good".
|> | 7. I choose "Install Driver"
|> | 8. I choose "Automatic" mode of installation.
|> | 9. Instead of killing X I've done a reboot (xorg.conf is still an
|> | optimized one for the ATI driver, I won't attach it now, because
|> | this might stop this mail from coming direct through the list and
|> | only will cause the administrators work).
|> | 10. spinymouse@64studio:~$ grep "EE" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
|> | Current Operating System: Linux 64studio
2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64
|> | #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Fri Jun 22 00:00:33 UTC 2007 x86_64
|> | (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??)
|> unknown.
|> | (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so
|> | (EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (loader failed, 7)
|> | (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
|> | (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
|> | (EE) fglrx(0): atiddxDriScreenInit failed, GPS not been
|> initialized.
|> | (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
|> |
|> | Nothing changed for the ATI driver. I'll copy the xorg.conf into
another
|> | mail right now.
|> |
|> | Any ideas, what I'm doing wrong?
|
| So it might be, that I have do make my Linux less functional, by giving
| up a PCI card, to get a free slot for a graphic card, that than might
| not work, because it only will work in one special slot, that I can't
| clear for the graphic card.
|
| Any ideas how I can make the integrated ATI work? Any recommendations
| for a low cost PCI Express x16, PCI Express x1 or PCI card? I have no
| AGP or any other slot, only those PCI slots.
|
| At the and I might have to buy a new mobo. I'm very poor, I get my food
| from charity, food that normally will be junked by supermarkets and this
| fucking mobo is a mobo I bought at 03/31/2008, because my old hardware
| wasn't fine with Linux, a friend still gets 100,- EUR from me, because
| he lent me the money and before I ordered my new hardware, I get the
| informations that this hardware should be fine with Linux.
|
| I won't belief any vendors any more and all the communities lists I
| know. Is there a verified list for hardware that will be fine with Linux?
|
| The other problem is, that normally I don't buy computer hardware, I get
| most of it from the bulk garbage and only because of Linux I sometimes
| buy computer hardware. I can't remember when I ordered guitar strings
| the last time because of my efforts to get my hardware running with
| Linux .
|
| I might should do some unethical work myself, e.g work for Brauner,
| Microsoft and other sucking people to get the money to be fine with
| Linux. Is this the only way to life on this planet? I stopped working
| for people like those and now quality of life goes more and more to the
| dogs.
|
| If you're using a Windows without licence and cracks, the people think
| you're "normal", if someone is honest, using FOSS like Linux, people
| think you're a freak.
|
| This is why I can't make other people using Linux. I always have to say:
| "To make music you have to boot 64 Studio", "to backup to the only safe
| medium dvdram, you have to boot another Linux, e.g. Suse", "If you want
| to have fax etc. you need a board with many pci slots and you have to
| buy a lot of cards, because most of your equipment won't work with
| Linux", "you also need another printer" ...
|
| I ought to lynch all this capitalists, doing all they can do, to
| maintain the monopolies of Apple and Microsoft. If ATI will give the
| needed informations to program drivers, what should a rival company use
| this information for?
|
| Sorry ... I'll come back to my troubles later and will try again to
| solve the ATI problem.
|
| Cheers,
| Ralf
|
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Old 06-18-2008, 03:13 PM
Ralf Mardorf
 
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Hi Gustin

we sent our mails at the same time, so you couldn't know that you are a
help by writing this mail. Thank you.

Gustin Johnson wrote:
> A friend of mine has a similar motherboard. It came with a board in the
> PCI-E slot to add an HDMI port. We pulled it out and put in an nVidia
> 7100 that he had lying around. At least the board that I saw had two
> PCI and one PCI-E.

Yes, the board has two PCI slots, one PCI x16 and one PCI ex1. The PCI
ex1easely can be disregard, because it's a very small slot. I
intentionally spend more money to have the HDMI card, that would be a
little advantage for doing little sidelines, but for homerecording there
isn't the need to have it and if I do a professional job (I can't
remember the last one), there isn't the need to use my equipment.

> If you are replacing the board, there are some Asus boards that have
> onboard nvidia (6150s, maybe newer now) that work well under linux.

This board is a new one, because I want to have a more Linux friendly
hardware and it has been one of the cheapest, the alternative was an
ASRock and I never will use an ASRock with Linux any more, because my
old one was an ASRock.

> The last one I bought for my parents was ~$85 CDN (40 odd euros).

I'm fine with the new ASUS, apart from the integrated ATI. Linux to the
greatest extend is stable. The RAMs are fine with 64 Studio, I don't
know why they aren't fine with Memtest, maybe Memtest is using BIOS
routs that aren't fine with the RAMs. I don't like to put the CPU to a
new mobo, because I'm not fine with most thermal compounds. I get
anaphylactic reactions, but not if I'm using the thermal interface
material from the AMD boxes. I might should take a look at the thermal
interface material list on the AMD's homepage, but speaking against a
new mobo is the fact that nearly everything is fine, even if a gfx card
will coast as much, as a new mobo, a gfx card might be the safe way.

Until now only the ATI and DVDRAM won't work, but I think I'll get it
work again with Suse, resp. a standard Debian Lenny, the trouble with
DVDRAM might has to do with 64 Studio. I don't need DVDRAM while making
music etc., it's only required for backups, because there isn't another
safe media but DVDRAM.

At the moment ALSA or something that has to do with the sound card isn't
fine, but this appears with the ATI xorg.conf. Because I didn't change
anything else, I think I can fix it, when changing the xorg.conf.

Cheers,
Ralf

PS: The NVidia 7100 seems to be more expensive than the once I'm
thinking off, but I don't know if they are fine with Linux. I'll read
about it tomorrow. Has this or any NVida card to be from NVidia, or are
other vendors using, e.g. the NVidia 7100 chip set, also okay?

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Old 06-18-2008, 04:08 PM
Ralf Mardorf
 
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> If you are replacing the board, there are some Asus boards that have
> onboard nvidia (6150s, maybe newer now) that work well under linux. The
> last one I bought for my parents was ~$85 CDN (40 odd euros).

The friend I've written about also might need my old RAM from the ASRock
mobo and maybe the Delock PCI card and the complete ASUS M2A-VM HDMI for
Windows multimedia. If so, a gfx card or a complete new board is
affordable or an exchangable value.

I only found an ASUS M2N-VM SE - GeForce 6100 50,00 EUR at a dealer I
don't know, see
http://www.comtech.de/product_info.php?ref=19&pID=214041&seo=ASUS-M2N-VM-SE,-nForce-430,-Sockel-AM2.

I asked myself: Is it fine with Linux? Does it support AMDs fan speed
control? If my new RAMs won't be fine with this board, that won't be
such a big problem.

I'll look out for gfx cards, e.g. an ASUS EN6200LE TC256/TD -
Grafikadapter - GF 6200LE TC from a dealer I don't know, see
http://www.hardwarefreak.de/product_info.php/info/p202080_ASUS-EN6200LE-TC256-TD---Grafikadapter---GF-6200LE-TC-mit-256-MB.html?refID=2,
is about 30,00 EUR, here I don't know the exact delivery charge, but it
won't be more than 10,00 EUR and the card is about 24,00 EUR.

It should be able to get a cheap NVidia card, that as far as possible is
compatible to Linux and especially with 64 Studio.

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Old 06-18-2008, 04:19 PM
Ralf Mardorf
 
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> It should be
possible
> to get a cheap NVidia card, that as far as possible is
> compatible to Linux and especially with 64 Studio.
>

Please write me, if some of you have a PCI NVidia or any other PCI
graphics, that is able to work with 64 Studio for 3D and that won't
ignore xorg.conf's vertical refresh rate and that isn't one of the
expensive once .

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Old 06-18-2008, 04:33 PM
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> Cheers,
> Ralf
>
> PS: The NVidia 7100 seems to be more expensive than the once I'm
> thinking off, but I don't know if they are fine with Linux. I'll read
> about it tomorrow. Has this or any NVida card to be from NVidia, or are
> other vendors using, e.g. the NVidia 7100 chip set, also okay?

It should not matter who made the card, as long as the chipset is
nVidia. Asus usually makes many different kinds of boards, some with
ATI, some with nvidia.

A local supplier has two AMD motherboards with onboard nVidia video:
Asus M2NPV-VM with a 6150 GPU
MSI K9N6SGM-V with a 6100 GPU

Neither is a speed demon but should be more than enough power for audio
work.

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Old 06-18-2008, 05:46 PM
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Ralf Mardorf wrote:
|> It should be
| possible
|> to get a cheap NVidia card, that as far as possible is
|> compatible to Linux and especially with 64 Studio.
|>
|
| Please write me, if some of you have a PCI NVidia or any other PCI
| graphics, that is able to work with 64 Studio for 3D and that won't
| ignore xorg.conf's vertical refresh rate and that isn't one of the
| expensive once .
|
I have never tested this on any card so I cannot offer any advice here,
~ To be fair, I have never had the sort of problem that you describe.
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Old 06-19-2008, 06:41 AM
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Gustin Johnson wrote:
> It should not matter who made the card, as long as the chipset is
> nVidia. Asus usually makes many different kinds of boards, some with
> ATI, some with nvidia.
>
> A local supplier has two AMD motherboards with onboard nVidia video:
> Asus M2NPV-VM with a 6150 GPU
> MSI K9N6SGM-V with a 6100 GPU
>

I am a bit reserved about on-board graphics. I have it on my system,
and in the end I actually bought a PCIe graphics card and disabled the
on-board. The memory sharing does not work quite so well with the RT
kernel. Desktop performance actually slows down annoyingly so.

Cheers,
Quentin

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Old 06-19-2008, 06:57 AM
Ralf Mardorf
 
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Quentin Harley wrote:
> I am a bit reserved about on-board graphics. I have it on my system,
> and in the end I actually bought a PCIe graphics card and disabled the
> on-board. The memory sharing does not work quite so well with the RT
> kernel. Desktop performance actually slows down annoyingly so.

Thank you Quentin

the actual state of affairs is, that I have decided to buy a gfx card,
among other things, because I'm thinking of the shared memory. I also
have decided to buy a NVidia chip set card from any vendor (I have to
read Gustin's mails, I've seen he wrote something about it).

I think it will be better to buy a passive card, because I have a large
fan for the power supply and an AMD dualcore, from the new generation,
45W and my computer is absolute silent.

I think a little bit more heat by a passive card will increase a little
bit the speed of the fans I have, but the fan of an active card might be
noisy.

I'll read Gustin's mails now and search later for some NVidia cards.

Cheers,
Ralf

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Old 06-19-2008, 07:31 AM
Ralf Mardorf
 
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Gustin Johnson wrote:
> Neither is a speed demon but should be more than enough power for audio
> work.

I also do videos, especially 2D animations, but maybe sometime I will
add sound to 3D animations or run some scientific applications, or
entertainment like Google Earth, but never games and if a scientific
application won't be fine with a slow 3D support it doesn't matter.

I need 3D, but I don't think I need extreme high speed 3D.

If the vertical refresh rate for a NVidia with 64 Studio won't be fine,
like it has been with my AGP-NVidia on the old board, it doesn't matter,
than I will use 64 Studio only as a DAW and will do graphics with Suse.
I don't understand why I can change the settings for Suse and not for 64
Studio. Does Suse's Sax fetch the frequency more intelligent than
Debian's xorg does? But also standard VESA settings won't work with 64
Studio, my cards and my monitor.

Anyway, I will look for NVidia chip set carts and later will asked if
someone know, if 3D is fine with 64 Studio, the trouble with the
vertical refresh rate shall not matter.

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