Very puzzling bug

06-15-2008, 02:53 PM

Below is a strange bug with Rosegarden, but I'm reporting it here as
well as they seem to be drawing a blank.

With V 1.7.0 while in record mode RG crashes spectacularly when it gets
a MIDI 'note-on' event. This happens regardless of whether the source
is my sound card (2496), or from a virtual keyboard. I haven't found any
other events that have the same effect. Mod Wheel, Pitch Wheel and
program change all seem to be handled correctly.

I have no problem with V 1.6.1 (so have dropped back to that for now).

I'm running in Studio64 V2.1 rc2 on a dual core Athlon.

Update.

I've been able to pin this down a little more. This doesn't happen with
a fresh install of debian 'lenny' but it does happen with 64studio V 2.1
- even if that is then upgraded to 'lenny'.

I'm wondering if maybe there is some KDE library conflict. It is very
odd that that Rosegarden 1.6.1 doesn't suffer the same crash.

--
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk

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06-15-2008, 03:07 PM

Folderol wrote:
> Below is a strange bug with Rosegarden, but I'm reporting it here as
> well as they seem to be drawing a blank.
>
>
> With V 1.7.0 while in record mode RG crashes spectacularly when it gets
> a MIDI 'note-on' event. This happens regardless of whether the source
> is my sound card (2496), or from a virtual keyboard. I haven't found any
> other events that have the same effect. Mod Wheel, Pitch Wheel and
> program change all seem to be handled correctly.
>
> I have no problem with V 1.6.1 (so have dropped back to that for now).
>
> I'm running in Studio64 V2.1 rc2 on a dual core Athlon.
>
>
> Update.
>
> I've been able to pin this down a little more. This doesn't happen with
> a fresh install of debian 'lenny' but it does happen with 64studio V 2.1
> - even if that is then upgraded to 'lenny'.
>
> I'm wondering if maybe there is some KDE library conflict. It is very
> odd that that Rosegarden 1.6.1 doesn't suffer the same crash.
>

Please be online for a while, I now will check out if it's the same with
my 64 Studio, this version of Rosegarden and KDE. The Setup is DX7 as
master Keyboard to an SWISSONIC USB-MIDInterface. To be continued ...

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06-15-2008, 03:31 PM

Here it is

I have a 64 Studio 2.1rc semi-upgraded to Lenny.

KDE is 3.5.9 (using KWin and not some extravagant WM)
jackd is 0.109.2-3
qjackctl is 0.3.2-1
Rosegarden is 1:1.7.0-1~etch1

Playing and recording a note-on-event is fine, but I've got another problem.

If my USB-MIDI is fine, the TerraTec sound card isn't fine. If the
TerraTec sound card is fine, the USB-MIDI isn't fine.

So I won't be able to make music at the moment.

I haven't the time to chek it out right now.

Cheers,
Ralf

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06-15-2008, 03:39 PM

PS:

64studio:/home/spinymouse# hwinfo --sound
22: PCI 14.2: 0403 Audio device
[Created at pci.296]
UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1002_4383
Unique ID: 5Dex.fwPnjOKuURD
SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.2
SysFS BusID: 0000:00:14.2
Hardware Class: sound
Model: "ASUSTeK Audio device"
Vendor: pci 0x1002 "ATI Technologies Inc"
Device: pci 0x4383
SubVendor: pci 0x1043 "ASUSTeK Computer Inc."
SubDevice: pci 0x8249
Driver: "HDA Intel"
Driver Modules: "snd_hda_intel"
Memory Range: 0xfe020000-0xfe023fff (rw,non-prefetchable)
IRQ: 16 (250 events)
Module Alias: "pci:v00001002d00004383sv00001043sd00008249bc04sc0 3i00"
Driver Info #0:
Driver Status: snd_hda_intel is active
Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe snd_hda_intel"
Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown

30: PCI 105.2: 0403 Audio device
[Created at pci.296]
UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1002_7919
Unique ID: dP62.3eubOLksOn3
Parent ID: vSkL.HjQnVRFuoa8
SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:05.2
SysFS BusID: 0000:01:05.2
Hardware Class: sound
Model: "ATI Audio device"
Vendor: pci 0x1002 "ATI Technologies Inc"
Device: pci 0x7919
SubVendor: pci 0x1002 "ATI Technologies Inc"
SubDevice: pci 0x7919
Driver: "HDA Intel"
Driver Modules: "snd_hda_intel"
Memory Range: 0xfdbfc000-0xfdbfffff (rw,non-prefetchable)
IRQ: 19 (1066 events)
Module Alias: "pci:v00001002d00007919sv00001002sd00007919bc04sc0 3i00"
Driver Info #0:
Driver Status: snd_hda_intel is active
Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe snd_hda_intel"
Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
Attached to: #11 (PCI bridge)

33: PCI 306.0: 0401 Multimedia audio controller
[Created at pci.296]
UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1412_1712
Unique ID: Kaa7.J4wu6rKmng4
Parent ID: qscc.ULOo3yhA66C
SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.4/0000:03:06.0
SysFS BusID: 0000:03:06.0
Hardware Class: sound
Model: "TERRATEC EWX 24/96"
Vendor: pci 0x1412 "VIA Technologies Inc."
Device: pci 0x1712 "ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller"
SubVendor: pci 0x153b "TERRATEC Electronic GmbH"
SubDevice: pci 0x1130 "EWX 24/96"
Revision: 0x02
I/O Ports: 0xca00-0xca1f (rw)
I/O Ports: 0xc900-0xc90f (rw)
I/O Ports: 0xc800-0xc80f (rw)
I/O Ports: 0xc700-0xc73f (rw)
IRQ: 11 (no events)
Module Alias: "pci:v00001412d00001712sv0000153Bsd00001130bc04sc0 1i00"
Driver Info #0:
Driver Status: snd_ice1712 is active
Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe snd_ice1712"
Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
Attached to: #24 (PCI bridge)
64studio:/home/spinymouse# hwinfo --cpu
01: None 00.0: 10103 CPU
[Created at cpu.304]
Unique ID: rdCR.j8NaKXDZtZ6
Hardware Class: cpu
Arch: X86-64
Vendor: "AuthenticAMD"
Model: 15.107.2 "AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual Core Processor BE-2350"
Features:
fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,p ge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,clflush,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ht ,syscall,nx,mmxext,fxsr_opt,rdtscp,lm,3dnowext,3dn ow,pni,cx16,lahf_lm,cmp_legacy,svm,extapic,cr8_leg acy,misalignsse
Clock: 2100 MHz
BogoMips: 4202.21
Cache: 512 kb
Units/Processor: 2
Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown

02: None 01.0: 10103 CPU
[Created at cpu.304]
Unique ID: wkFv.j8NaKXDZtZ6
Hardware Class: cpu
Arch: X86-64
Vendor: "AuthenticAMD"
Model: 15.107.2 "AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual Core Processor BE-2350"
Features:
fpu,vme,de,pse,tsc,msr,pae,mce,cx8,apic,sep,mtrr,p ge,mca,cmov,pat,pse36,clflush,mmx,fxsr,sse,sse2,ht ,syscall,nx,mmxext,fxsr_opt,rdtscp,lm,3dnowext,3dn ow,pni,cx16,lahf_lm,cmp_legacy,svm,extapic,cr8_leg acy,misalignsse
Clock: 2100 MHz
BogoMips: 4199.73
Cache: 512 kb
Units/Processor: 2
Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
64studio:/home/spinymouse#

The board is an ASUS M2A-VM HDMI with latest BIOS-Update, resp. I didn't
check the ASUS BIOS updates today.

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06-15-2008, 03:56 PM

Folderol wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:31:44 +0200
> Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net> wrote:
>
>
>> Here it is

>>
>> I have a 64 Studio 2.1rc semi-upgraded to Lenny.
>>
>> KDE is 3.5.9 (using KWin and not some extravagant WM)
>> jackd is 0.109.2-3
>> qjackctl is 0.3.2-1
>> Rosegarden is 1:1.7.0-1~etch1
>>
>> Playing and recording a note-on-event is fine, but I've got another problem.
>>
>> If my USB-MIDI is fine, the TerraTec sound card isn't fine. If the
>> TerraTec sound card is fine, the USB-MIDI isn't fine.
>>
>> So I won't be able to make music at the moment.
>>
>> I haven't the time to chek it out right now.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ralf
>>
>
> This looks a very similar setup.
>
> My starting point was 64studio 2.1 rc2, so that's a slight difference.
>
> Also I was working with the default Gnome desktop, then with a very
> lightweght combination of ROX desktop + openbox WM, so don't have a
> full KDE installation, just the base packages.
>
> The soundcard is I think irrelevant, as the same problem occurs if you
> use a software MIDI keyboard (vkeybd) with or without any outputs
> connected to Rosegarden.
>
> The problem *only* occurs when the transport is actually moving in
> record mode, and *only* a note on causes the crash.
>
> As I said V 1.6.1 doesn't do it.
>

I will be short in time for the whole month and especial right now. I
will test GNOME and vkeybd tomorrow. I can't use the TerraTec MIDI
because there's missing some hardware.

Try to install a complete KDE if you have the space on your harddisk,
even if you only will use GNOME or another DE/WM. Do this just to check
out if it has to do with libs.

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06-15-2008, 03:59 PM

> The problem *only* occurs when the transport is actually moving in
> record mode, and *only* a note on causes the crash.
>

As I said it's fine with my system, but I have another problem

.

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06-15-2008, 04:02 PM

Day of the PSs:

"I have a 64 Studio 2.1rc semi-upgraded to Lenny."

It was a 2.1rc1 upgraded all the time, so I think it was also a 2.1rc2
upgraded to Lenny and after this some packages were changed manually.

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06-15-2008, 04:44 PM

> I'll try installing the entire KDE package - I'm not short of disk
> space. I just am reluctant to install apps I'm not using - the more
> there is, the more there is to go wrong

>

Full acknowledge, but in this case there might be missing something. I'm
not fine with Linux, but there's no alternative OS I can use, because
I'm not fine with capitalists.

Install KDE by Synaptic, so you will get a history and you will be able
to reset your system, using the informations of the history.

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06-15-2008, 05:37 PM

Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Here it is

>
> I have a 64 Studio 2.1rc semi-upgraded to Lenny.
>
> Cheers,
> Ralf
>
>

Ralf wrote:

"I have a 64 Studio 2.1rc semi-upgraded to Lenny."

It was a 2.1rc1 upgraded all the time, so I think it was also a 2.1rc2
upgraded to Lenny and after this some packages were changed manually.

------------------------------

Hi Ralf, ;-)

I think you have a full lenny upgrade here.
If my memory is right you did this upgrade before the
64studio lenny back-ports were available.
So I don't know what would happen if you enabled them now?

If you install kwin-style-crystal, gtk2-engines-spherecrystal
in Synaptic, search "crystal".
You will have the option in kcontrol to claim back large
amounts of desktop area if your screen resolution is limited.
(ATI driver).

The Plastic (default) theme window borders are massive
in comparison and you have no option to adjust them.

Cheers,

dave.

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06-15-2008, 06:04 PM

dave wrote:
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
>> Here it is

>>
>> I have a 64 Studio 2.1rc semi-upgraded to Lenny.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ralf
>>
>>
>>
>
> Ralf wrote:
>
> "I have a 64 Studio 2.1rc semi-upgraded to Lenny."
>
> It was a 2.1rc1 upgraded all the time, so I think it was also a 2.1rc2
> upgraded to Lenny and after this some packages were changed manually.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Hi Ralf, ;-)
>
> I think you have a full lenny upgrade here.
> If my memory is right you did this upgrade before the
> 64studio lenny back-ports were available.
> So I don't know what would happen if you enabled them now?
>
> If you install kwin-style-crystal, gtk2-engines-spherecrystal
> in Synaptic, search "crystal".
> You will have the option in kcontrol to claim back large
> amounts of desktop area if your screen resolution is limited.
> (ATI driver).
>
> The Plastic (default) theme window borders are massive
> in comparison and you have no option to adjust them.
>
> Cheers,
>
> dave.
>

Hi Dave

yes and no.

Until now I never used Lenny backports and (security) upgrades but I
have done some reinstallings and installings without any Lenny
repositories, that might cause the troubles with Envy and USB-MIDI.

I didn't go on with the ATI. I get an advice from a Suse multimedia
moderator (a bragging penpal I often have troubles with), who alleged to
build his kernels himself and I especially told him that I've no AGP
port, and he told me he is using 5,- EUR NVidia cards that are PCI, but
he was wrong, the cards are AGP and I bet he never build a kernel
himself, he might do some patches, otherwise he should know what AGP is.
I stopped my work and searched for this card as an AGP version. Back to
me. I need a missing kernel module but until now I didn't have the nerve
to check out how I can install it.

For me the time has come, I will give a dam about graphics and about one
Linux for all needs. I think I will install a stable 64 Studio 2.1 too
and will make some music, instead of doing handicrafts for my Linux.

The screen resolution is fine. I can't change the vertical refresh rate
and 3D won't work because of a missing module.

There might be a way to get this module and to get 3D working but the
problem with the settings for the vertical refresh rate, has been the
same for my old hardware with a NVidia AGP card. With my old hardware
everything else has been fine and for Suse it also has been possible to
change the vertical refresh rate, but when using more than one kernel,
the way how to implement the 3D driver for several kenerls won't work
for all kernels.

Thank you, anyhow I'll take a look at the themes.

Cheers,
Ralf

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