FAQ Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
» Video Reviews

» Linux Archive

Linux-archive is a website aiming to archive linux email lists and to make them easily accessible for linux users/developers.


» Sponsor

» Partners

» Sponsor

Go Back   Linux Archive > 64 Studio > 64 Studio User

 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
 
Old 06-15-2008, 06:30 PM
dave
 
Default Very puzzling bug

Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> dave wrote:
>
>> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Here it is
>>>
>>> I have a 64 Studio 2.1rc semi-upgraded to Lenny.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ralf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Ralf wrote:
>>
>> "I have a 64 Studio 2.1rc semi-upgraded to Lenny."
>>
>> It was a 2.1rc1 upgraded all the time, so I think it was also a 2.1rc2
>> upgraded to Lenny and after this some packages were changed manually.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Hi Ralf, ;-)
>>
>> I think you have a full lenny upgrade here.
>> If my memory is right you did this upgrade before the
>> 64studio lenny back-ports were available.
>> So I don't know what would happen if you enabled them now?
>>
>> If you install kwin-style-crystal, gtk2-engines-spherecrystal
>> in Synaptic, search "crystal".
>> You will have the option in kcontrol to claim back large
>> amounts of desktop area if your screen resolution is limited.
>> (ATI driver).
>>
>> The Plastic (default) theme window borders are massive
>> in comparison and you have no option to adjust them.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> dave.
>>
>>
>
> Hi Dave
>
> yes and no.
>
> Until now I never used Lenny backports and (security) upgrades but I
> have done some reinstallings and installings without any Lenny
> repositories, that might cause the troubles with Envy and USB-MIDI.
>
> I didn't go on with the ATI. I get an advice from a Suse multimedia
> moderator (a bragging penpal I often have troubles with), who alleged to
> build his kernels himself and I especially told him that I've no AGP
> port, and he told me he is using 5,- EUR NVidia cards that are PCI, but
> he was wrong, the cards are AGP and I bet he never build a kernel
> himself, he might do some patches, otherwise he should know what AGP is.
> I stopped my work and searched for this card as an AGP version. Back to
> me. I need a missing kernel module but until now I didn't have the nerve
> to check out how I can install it.
>
> For me the time has come, I will give a dam about graphics and about one
> Linux for all needs. I think I will install a stable 64 Studio 2.1 too
> and will make some music, instead of doing handicrafts for my Linux.
>
> The screen resolution is fine. I can't change the vertical refresh rate
> and 3D won't work because of a missing module.
>
> There might be a way to get this module and to get 3D working but the
> problem with the settings for the vertical refresh rate, has been the
> same for my old hardware with a NVidia AGP card. With my old hardware
> everything else has been fine and for Suse it also has been possible to
> change the vertical refresh rate, but when using more than one kernel,
> the way how to implement the 3D driver for several kenerls won't work
> for all kernels.
>
> Thank you, anyhow I'll take a look at the themes.
>
> Cheers,
> Ralf
>
>

Hi Ralf,

This lenny upgrade is the one I did just before you did yours.
I am using the onboard intel graphics card.
I have tweaked xorg.conf and installed kde & Crystal theme,
This has allowed me to claim back "more desktop area".
Once you get the theme installed.
Control Centre > Window Decorations > (Crystal)
General tab:
Border width set to 3
Titlebar height set to 15
You can't do this with the Plastic theme.
I am happy with these graphics... Not interested in eye candy.
My sound is very happy :-)
When 64studio reaches 3.0 I want to have a better understanding
of how it got there. So I will keep installing and testing.

Cheers!
dave.

ps,
I have installed TorK, just to see what it is.
My log messages tell me it is very experimental.



_______________________________________________
64studio-users mailing list
64studio-users@64studio.com
http://lists.64studio.com/mailman/listinfo/64studio-users
 
Old 06-15-2008, 07:19 PM
Folderol
 
Default Very puzzling bug

On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:44:48 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net> wrote:

>
> > I'll try installing the entire KDE package - I'm not short of disk
> > space. I just am reluctant to install apps I'm not using - the more
> > there is, the more there is to go wrong
> >
>
> Full acknowledge, but in this case there might be missing something. I'm
> not fine with Linux, but there's no alternative OS I can use, because
> I'm not fine with capitalists.
>
> Install KDE by Synaptic, so you will get a history and you will be able
> to reset your system, using the informations of the history.
>

oops - sent this to the wrong place i think

I've done a little more to try and work out what is happening.

First I cleared out every trace of Rosegarden. Every file and directory
I could find in the system area and user area.

Next I checked that I only had the 'lenny' repositories active.

I did a full KDE install, not just the base files, then checked for any
possible updates. The only one I rejected was for the kernel as it's not
RT

Finally I installed the 'lenny' version of Rosegarden.

Guess what - exactly the same problem.

If I uninstall that and reinstall a locally compiled 1.6.1 version I
have no problems (I did try compiling 1.7 but that crashes as well).

FWIW if I have a key pressed and then start recording nothing happens
until I lift the key - then total collapse. So this problem occurs with
both note on and note off messages. As I said, no other messages seem
to do this.

Finally, if I have jack disabled, so Rosegarden connects direct to the
soundcard MIDI port I still get this crash, which eliminates jack as a
possible cause.

It can't be the sound card because (with jack running) a virtual
keyboard has the same effect.



--
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk

_______________________________________________
64studio-users mailing list
64studio-users@64studio.com
http://lists.64studio.com/mailman/listinfo/64studio-users
 
Old 06-16-2008, 07:47 PM
Ralf Mardorf
 
Default Very puzzling bug

dave wrote:
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
>> dave wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Here it is
>>>>
>>>> I have a 64 Studio 2.1rc semi-upgraded to Lenny.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ralf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Ralf wrote:
>>>
>>> "I have a 64 Studio 2.1rc semi-upgraded to Lenny."
>>>
>>> It was a 2.1rc1 upgraded all the time, so I think it was also a 2.1rc2
>>> upgraded to Lenny and after this some packages were changed manually.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Hi Ralf, ;-)
>>>
>>> I think you have a full lenny upgrade here.
>>> If my memory is right you did this upgrade before the
>>> 64studio lenny back-ports were available.
>>> So I don't know what would happen if you enabled them now?
>>>
>>> If you install kwin-style-crystal, gtk2-engines-spherecrystal
>>> in Synaptic, search "crystal".
>>> You will have the option in kcontrol to claim back large
>>> amounts of desktop area if your screen resolution is limited.
>>> (ATI driver).
>>>
>>> The Plastic (default) theme window borders are massive
>>> in comparison and you have no option to adjust them.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> dave.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Hi Dave
>>
>> yes and no.
>>
>> Until now I never used Lenny backports and (security) upgrades but I
>> have done some reinstallings and installings without any Lenny
>> repositories, that might cause the troubles with Envy and USB-MIDI.
>>
>> I didn't go on with the ATI. I get an advice from a Suse multimedia
>> moderator (a bragging penpal I often have troubles with), who alleged to
>> build his kernels himself and I especially told him that I've no AGP
>> port, and he told me he is using 5,- EUR NVidia cards that are PCI, but
>> he was wrong, the cards are AGP and I bet he never build a kernel
>> himself, he might do some patches, otherwise he should know what AGP is.
>> I stopped my work and searched for this card as an AGP version. Back to
>> me. I need a missing kernel module but until now I didn't have the nerve
>> to check out how I can install it.
>>
>> For me the time has come, I will give a dam about graphics and about one
>> Linux for all needs. I think I will install a stable 64 Studio 2.1 too
>> and will make some music, instead of doing handicrafts for my Linux.
>>
>> The screen resolution is fine. I can't change the vertical refresh rate
>> and 3D won't work because of a missing module.
>>
>> There might be a way to get this module and to get 3D working but the
>> problem with the settings for the vertical refresh rate, has been the
>> same for my old hardware with a NVidia AGP card. With my old hardware
>> everything else has been fine and for Suse it also has been possible to
>> change the vertical refresh rate, but when using more than one kernel,
>> the way how to implement the 3D driver for several kenerls won't work
>> for all kernels.
>>
>> Thank you, anyhow I'll take a look at the themes.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ralf
>>
>>
>>
>
> Hi Ralf,
>
> This lenny upgrade is the one I did just before you did yours.
> I am using the onboard intel graphics card.
> I have tweaked xorg.conf and installed kde & Crystal theme,
> This has allowed me to claim back "more desktop area".
> Once you get the theme installed.
> Control Centre > Window Decorations > (Crystal)
> General tab:
> Border width set to 3
> Titlebar height set to 15
> You can't do this with the Plastic theme.
> I am happy with these graphics... Not interested in eye candy.
> My sound is very happy :-)
> When 64studio reaches 3.0 I want to have a better understanding
> of how it got there. So I will keep installing and testing.
>
> Cheers!
> dave.
>
> ps,
> I have installed TorK, just to see what it is.
> My log messages tell me it is very experimental.
>

Hi Dave

I run TorK with Suse 10.3. Tor is fine, but browsing is very slow, even
with the minimum of tor servers. Mixminon isn't credible, sometimes
mails won't reach the recipient. By the way, there is an add-on for
Thunderbird (Iceweasel) called Torbutton. Until now I only run TorK with
Lenny, but didn't connect to tor, so I don't know if it's fine.

I'm having a pause from working on my Lenny, at the moment I'm watching
TV, resp. I take a look at some things and I'm writing this mail .

$ grep "EE" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
Current Operating System: Linux 64studio 2.6.21-1-multimedia-amd64 #1
SMP PREEMPT RT Fri Jun 22 00:00:33 UTC 2007 x86_64
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so
(EE) Failed to load module "GLcore" (loader failed, 7)
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(EE) fglrx(0): atiddxDriScreenInit failed, GPS not been initialized.
(EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable

This problem seems to be widespread in threads in forums, but until now
I didn't find a solution for Lenny and ATI.

Hm, mesa-swx11-source might be a source, that might be used by the
proprietary installer and that provides GLcore, I will try this later,
after watching TV. I have to download the installer again.

Cheers,
Ralf

PS: The problem that either the USB-MIDI or the TerraTec sound card is
fine might be emerge since I changed from vesa to fglrx, the ATI driver.
I'll have to check out if this is the problem.

_______________________________________________
64studio-users mailing list
64studio-users@64studio.com
http://lists.64studio.com/mailman/listinfo/64studio-users
 

Thread Tools




All times are GMT. The time now is 06:41 AM.

VBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO ©2007, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright 2007 - 2008, www.linux-archive.org