ok this works: I simply changed "/usr/bin/qjackctl" to* "killal esd & /usr/bin/qjackctl" as the "command" in Accesoires >> Alacarte Menu Editor, for Jack control (Qjackctl).

I don't have KDE installed but somedays ago i started changing the look and feel of Gnome, and experimented (but didn't finish) with some things that I forgot about by now, it wasn't a really good idea ...


so now if i have this problem again, I'll try "killall esd" or if that doesn't work, "alsa force-reload"

thanks

;-)
P
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net> wrote:

Try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221534.






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I hop you read the

beginning of Olson's thread Why I am going back to Debian

<http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=307243>.

yes I was distrackted by that post too, it's interesting . I like the concept of the meaning of the word "ubuntu", but if it's as they write about Mark S., wanting to compete instead of cooperate with other companies , well, that's not according to the meaning of the word Ubuntu.



It would be better if anybody has a solution to solve the problem,

instead of doing a trick.

I could revert the command for Jack control (=remove 'killall esd &') and try
your test : change hw:0 to the onboard soundcard
or maybe i could use
some command to see what process is using hw:0

to find out where the problem is.

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I should have 3 computers , or some more discipline

The origin of my problem is that I followed some HowToMakeYourLinuxLookLikeaMac, to learn more about the working of the window manager system.
I installed some packages using synaptic, but it was late in the evening already, so I didn't finish the configuration, didn't remember what packages I had installed, didn't check if they were written for Gnome or KDE , etc.


So this morning, the first thing I did was change the Jack control start command back to "/usr/bin/qjackctl"
then read your replies here, and didÂ* "$ pstree" (=and learned a new command)
so I could see that ESD was running ..

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Â*Â*Â*Â* └─xscreensaver

Then GNOME Menu >> Desktop >> Preferences >> Sound : here I unticked the "enable system sounds (ESD)" choice.
Now I can start Jack with no complaints, with the simple qjackctl command


If I'd want to enable system sounds again (which I don't) , I'd have to change the icons' commands to "killall esd & ..." for all soundcard using applications, or is there something else I'm missing ?


Thanks again

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Using Synaptic , you could try to install that library :




libesd-alsa0I currently have this one installed: libesd0


libesd0

Enlightened Sound Daemon - Shared libraries
This program is designed to mix together several digitized
audio streams for playback by a single device.

This package is for use with OSS sound drivers.


This package had to be removed to install libesd-alsa0
When I checked libesd0 for removal, I had to remove 64studio and a whole bunch of other packages.
I was lucky , when I just installed libesd-alsa0 and clicked ok to remove libesd0, no other packages had to be removed

intelligent system ... and fascinating



If installed , you should be able to keep ESD running in your preferences
yes indeed, now the only remaining "not working thing" is that i don't hear the system sounds,* not even after installing the gnome-audio package

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regards

Claude*Thanks for the tip
Peter
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